Legal Action Taken by 9/11 Truth Groups?

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: MotherMayEye

They brought in over 600,000....

I have no idea what their expenses were. You didn't post that info.

I'll try to find more details tomorrow but if they haven't been audited, I assume they have accounted for their expenses lawfully and haven't taken any serious cash 'in?'

Also, FOIA requests are generally free unless there is a huge burden on an agency to fulfill the request OR if the agency withholds records/information and a requester decides to pursue it in court, thus incurring litigation costs.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: MotherMayEye

They brought in over 600,000....

I have no idea what their expenses were. You didn't post that info.

Total revenue and total expenses are on both the images I provided, how did you miss that?

I'll repost a zoomed in portion from one to help you out.

I'll try to find more details tomorrow

See if you can figure out how much in Salaries were paid out.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: D8Tee
Your premise that lawsuits should have been filed is delusional.

Lol! I have no premise. It's your thread. It makes no sense. What are you asserting "should be" ?

O.K. try to follow along, scroll to the top, check who the threadstarter is, it's not me.

I should be praying to Jesus Christ right now. This whole thread is really not conceived well. You are mad at them for not doing enough which is kind of dopey. Stop complaining and you start doing.

??????
I was not really in the know, and trying to learn something I might not know?

Again? With all the allegations by the 9/11 truth movement of a murderous government, staged crime scense, fraudulent NIST reports, faked data, faked deaths, botched investigations, criminally negligent investigations, faked DNA evidence, fake coroner reports, faked death certificates, and fabricated testimony there should be plenty legal action AE and Pilots for 9/11 Truth could engage in?

They all claim the so called official narrative is full of lies and pseudoscience witch are supposedly obvious?

Possible example? I thought AE 9/11 Truth is always complaining NIST has not released their computer modeling data for the WTC? Has AE filled a freedom of information request or lawsuit to have the data released?

originally posted by: D8Tee

Total revenue and total expenses are on both the images I provided, how did you miss that?

I didn't miss that. I mean their expenses aren't ITEMIZED. For examples...SALARIES, just as you noted.

Geez.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: D8Tee

Total revenue and total expenses are on both the images I provided, how did you miss that?

I didn't miss that. I mean their expenses aren't ITEMIZED. For examples...SALARIES, just as you noted.

Geez.

Dig deeper, all this information is freely available.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Since you seem not to be able to find it, let me help you.

a reply to: D8Tee
I haven't even bothered to look. But, I am ok with the bottom line they reported if the IRS is.

In the two years you brought up, they broke even or operated at a loss.

P.S. BTW, salaries are not the only expenses for the vast majority of businesses.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

P.S. BTW, salaries are not the only expenses for the vast majority of businesses.

No sh*t sherlock.



With over 600,000 dollars in income, did they spend any on:

Freedom of information acts filed?

Lawsuits over what they claim are criminally negligent investigations?

Lawsuits over what the claim are false and incorrect data in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to correct what they claim is pseudoscience in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to retract what they claim are false and criminally negligent conclusions of the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to have the human remains of flight 77 exhumed if they truly believe the pentagon was hit with a missile or bombed?


They did spend 64,000 dollar on advertising.

a reply to: D8Tee

To quote you, "Dig deeper, all this information is freely available."

If their itemized expenses are so freely available, then figure it out yourself.

a reply to: MotherMayEye
It was you that said you were going to look into it, it was you that was interested in a breakdown of all their expenses.

It was you that wanted this information in the first place.

I'm very curious about this. What constitutes "serious cash?"

Also, can you provide some links to this financial info? I don't even know where to go to find it.

Thanks in advance.

I have no idea what their expenses were. You didn't post that info.

I'll try to find more details tomorrow but if they haven't been audited, I assume they have accounted for their expenses lawfully and haven't taken any serious cash 'in?'

I'll look into making an account in the morning though to get a firm grasp though.

And Now this:

If their itemized expenses are so freely available, then figure it out yourself.

Jesus have another drink, you are the master of doubling back and doubling down.

Obfuscation at it's finest.



Please try to answer the following....

One more time, They brought in over 600,000, i don't know what qualifies as serious cash to you, but that makes the grade for me.

With that money taken in did they spend any on:

Freedom of information acts filed?

Lawsuits over what they claim are criminally negligent investigations?

Lawsuits over what the claim are false and incorrect data in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to correct what they claim is pseudoscience in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to retract what they claim are false and criminally negligent conclusions of the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to have the human remains of flight 77 exhumed if they truly believe the pentagon was hit with a missile or bombed?

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: D8Tee

To quote you, "Dig deeper, all this information is freely available."

If their itemized expenses are so freely available, then figure it out yourself.

If you can't even dig up a non profits financial information, what makes you think you have done a thorough job of researching how the towers fell, or what struck the Pentagon?
No worries, I'll once again do your research for you, anything else I can hold your hand with in regards to 911?
Have you read the NIST report or the Pentagon Building Performance Report?
Can you even find them?
Pentagon Building Performance Report isn't that easy to find, it's behind a paywall at most places.
Your research skills suck and it shows.

AE911 is not interested in taking any legal action regarding 911.
They know that other than FOI's all suits would go against them.

Their goal is to keep complaining publicly that something is wrong so they can keep the money coming in.
At least long enough for Gage to hit retirement age.
Outside of ae911 he is unemployable.

It would be interesting if one of his supporters realized that he's been lying and takes him to court for fraud.

Look at their legal expenses $1300.
That is so small as to be more like consultation or even parking tickets.

But look at their IT expenses $15.5K.
What were they doing?
It's not like they have a lot of full time staff.
Last I saw Gage was the only full timer of ae911.
Smells like skimming to me.

Employee benefits $11,800 ?
On salaries of only $70K ?

Lets milk it for all it's worth richard.

a reply to: samkent

Their goal is to keep complaining publicly that something is wrong so they can keep the money coming in.
At least long enough for Gage to hit retirement age.
Outside of ae911 he is unemployable.

How do you know this? Did you have a job with A&E? Did Gage tell you personally that he created A&E to milk the public?

Or is this your assumption?

a reply to: Informer1958

Stay on topic.
Please try to answer the following....

One more time, They brought in over 600,000, i don't know what qualifies as serious cash to you, but that makes the grade for me.

With that money taken in did they spend any on:

Freedom of information acts filed?

Lawsuits over what they claim are criminally negligent investigations?

Lawsuits over what the claim are false and incorrect data in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to correct what they claim is pseudoscience in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to retract what they claim are false and criminally negligent conclusions of the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to have the human remains of flight 77 exhumed if they truly believe the pentagon was hit with a missile or bombed?

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: samkent

Their goal is to keep complaining publicly that something is wrong so they can keep the money coming in.
At least long enough for Gage to hit retirement age.
Outside of ae911 he is unemployable.

How do you know this? Did you have a job with A&E? Did Gage tell you personally that he created A&E to milk the public?

Or is this your assumption?

I wondered what you would post after all your claims of not being part of the truth movement and an independent thinker?

a reply to: neutronflux

Digging around on Richard Gage and Kevin Ryan I could find no lawsuits filed by A&E for 911 Truth.

I did find it interesting that they associate with The Nation of Islam an organization some would call a Black Supremacist and anti Semitic organization.Link

On February 18, 2017, the Nation of Islam presented an extraordinary event at its national Saviours’ Day convention in Detroit, Michigan. The Most Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan invited three scholars to examine the issue of “THE WAR ON ISLAM: 9/11 Revisited, Uncovered & Exposed.”

Louis Farrakhan, now thats some good company to keep!

a reply to: neutronflux

Doesn't seem like there has been any legal action taken by any of the truth groups.

None that I could find, and none of the truthers are chiming in, indicating they can't find it either.