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Legal Action Taken by 9/11 Truth Groups?

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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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In the context of these items:

Title: Most 9/11 workers settle suits over WTC dust
usatoday30.usatoday.com...


NEW YORK (AP) — More than 10,000 workers exposed to the tons of toxic dust that blanketed Ground Zero after the World Trade Center fell have ended their bruising legal fight with New York City and joined a settlement worth at least $625 million, officials said Friday.


Title: Judicial Watch v. Federal Bureau of Investigation (No.06-1135)
From: judicialwatch.org


Judicial Watch lawsuit to obtain previously unseen footage of Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act request on December 15, 2004, seeking all records pertaining to camera recordings from the Sheraton National Hotel, the Nexcomm/Citgo gas station, Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of Transportation.On May 16, 2006, Judicial Watch forced the Department of Defense to release video footage of American Airlines flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon on 9/11.


Aegis Insurance Services, Inc. v. 7 World Trade Center Co., No. 11-4403 (2d Cir. 2013)
law.justia.com...


After burning for seven hours, 7WTC collapsed, destroying the electrical substation owned by Con Ed directly beneath the building. Con Ed, along with its insurers, filed suit against defendants, who designed, built, operated, and maintained 7WTC, alleging in relevant part that defendants' negligence caused the building to collapse.


Also in the context of how many books have been sold using 9/11 conspiracy as the topic.

Other than petition signing drives, what legal action has been taken by the 9/11 truth movement?

Why was Pilots for 9/11 Truth not the main driving force for the releasing of flight 77 footage?

What legal action has AE 9/11 Truth taken to have all of what they consider false data and conclusions retracted from the NIST reports?

Please keep on topic with only discussing the legal battles fought by the 9/11 truth movement! I will ask everyone to police this thread and prevent topic drift. I under stand that 9/11 is emotional, but I know little of the legal action fought by the truth movement. Found little information while searching the internet. Thank you.

Please cite sources when referencing specific legal actions.




posted on May, 21 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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They just pocketed blood money. Truth movement...never heard of them and never will.

Disgusting



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: ConscienceZombie
They just pocketed blood money. Truth movement...never heard of them and never will.

Disgusting


I understand where you are coming from. Thought this post could go one way or the other.

It could highlight the legal battle the truth movement has fought in an actual attempt to release information, correct incorrect data/findings, and retract the official account.

Or, highlight the truth movement's incompetence at fighting for the truth.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
Other than petition signing drives, what legal action has been taken by the 9/11 truth movement?


I'm trying to understand your motivations. Are you for or against the 9/11 truth movement? Are you suggesting they are only doing whatever it is they do just for money?

btw, there are tons of lawsuits related to 9/11 too many to categorize:

Google search


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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
Or, highlight the truth movement's incompetence at fighting for the truth.


Tag, your it. There's nothing stopping you from doing whatever it is that you are criticizing them from not doing. Maybe people in the 9/11 Truth movement are just like you and me. They are not paid to do their research.

Would you prefer that they would just stop digging around. Are you one of the 9/11 Official Story people?

There would not be a 9/11 truther movement if this video were not so painful to watch!





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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth bring in some serious cash.

Gage takes a chunk of that as salary.

What have they done as far as FOI requests or legal action to uncover their truth?

You are naive to believe there's not money to be made from the truth movement.



there are tons of lawsuits related to 9/11 too many to categorize:

Can you provide some examples instead of just a blanket google search?
What are the lawsuits in relation too, what have been the outcomes?

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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

But what action has AE 9/11 Truth and Pilots for 9/11 Truth taken? Did Pilots for 9/11 Truth file freedom of information requests for flight recorder data? For the release of the flight 77 videos?

How about Dr Wood and book sales of, "Where Did the Towers Go? Evidence of Directed Free-energy Technology on 9/11"?

I assume conspiracy authors push the nefarious US government narrative, and make a profit doing so? Do they put any money forth to legally fight to expose what they claim are false conclusions and pseudoscience of the NIST reports? File lawsuits to have NIST correct what they think are false and incompetent investigations? As in the truth movement claims investigations were so botched to meet the definition of being criminal neglectful?

There was at least one lawsuit won against the botched reporting on the toxicity of WTC dust by the EPA?
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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:33 PM
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I use the EPA sample lawsuit as an example to highlight groups can fight and legally expose the incompetence of the government.

People supporting 9/11 conspiracies usually dismiss the example with:

Note: paraphrasing
"The government didn't care because it was such a small settlement."

Or

"They let that one go for appearances."


But what proof is there the 9/11 truth movement has actually fight for the right to know, seeked justice over what they think are illegal investigations, correct false data, and have false conclusions retracted?

Does YouTube videos count?



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
What have they done as far as FOI requests or legal action to uncover their truth?
You are naive to believe there's not money to be made from the truth movement.


I'm naive? Just answer me one question: What happened to the 2.3 trillion?




originally posted by: D8Tee
Can you provide some examples instead of just a blanket google search?
What are the lawsuits in relation too, what have been the outcomes?


They have not filed taxes in the state of New Hampshire either. Your question makes absolutely no sense. Your premise that lawsuits should have been filed is delusional. What lawsuit should they have filed that they did not file?



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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
I assume conspiracy authors push the nefarious US government narrative, and make a profit doing so?


Who cares about the authors or who made money. What difference does it make? 9/11 happened. And there's NOTHING you are going to say that will change my mind about what I saw on TV. Those buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. No collapse is going to be at near free-fall speed. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt concrete. And Building 7 wasn't even hit by a plane. It's all effing BS.

Google "9/11 purim children" is everything you need to know about 9/11 and read the Veterans Today article.




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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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Google "9/11 purim children" is everything you need to know about 9/11 and read the Veterans Today article.

No, it's not everything you need to know. You have just shown how close minded you are. You have proven how Naive you are.



Posted by DFNJ2015:
Your premise that lawsuits should have been filed is delusional.


Jesus. It was your claim that lawsuits had been filed.

Posted by DFNJ2015:
btw, there are tons of lawsuits related to 9/11 too many to categorize:



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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

This is about the legal actions of groups like AE and Pilots for 9/11 Truth. Conspiracy authors too?

Can you list freedom of information acts filed by the groups? Conspiracists?

Lawsuits over what they claim are criminally negligent investigations?

Lawsuits over what the claim are false and incorrect data in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to correct what they claim is pseudoscience in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to retract what they claim are false and criminally negligent conclusions of the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to have the human remains of flight 77 exhumed if they truly believe the pentagon was hit with a missile or bombed?
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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
Posted by DFNJ2015:
Your premise that lawsuits should have been filed is delusional.



Lol! I have no premise. It's your thread. It makes no sense. What are you asserting "should be" ?


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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 09:30 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: dfnj2015
Lawsuits to have the human remains of flight 77 exhumed if they truly believe the pentagon was hit with a missile or bombed?


Those certainly logically follow in a sequence. You are just way too smart for me to even comment on anything you post.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: D8Tee
Your premise that lawsuits should have been filed is delusional.


Lol! I have no premise. It's your thread. It makes no sense. What are you asserting "should be" ?

O.K. try to follow along, scroll to the top, check who the threadstarter is, it's not me.




originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: neutronflux
Other than petition signing drives, what legal action has been taken by the 9/11 truth movement?

btw, there are tons of lawsuits related to 9/11 too many to categorize:

Google search


Alls I'm asking is for you to pick out some examples to discuss, is that too much to ask?


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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: D8Tee
Your premise that lawsuits should have been filed is delusional.


Lol! I have no premise. It's your thread. It makes no sense. What are you asserting "should be" ?


O.K. try to follow along, scroll to the top, check who the threadstarter is, it's not me.



I should be praying to Jesus Christ right now. This whole thread is really not conceived well. You are mad at them for not doing enough which is kind of dopey. Stop complaining and you start doing.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee

Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth bring in some serious cash.



I'm very curious about this. What constitutes "serious cash?"

Also, can you provide some links to this financial info? I don't even know where to go to find it.

Thanks in advance.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: D8Tee

Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth bring in some serious cash.



I'm very curious about this. What constitutes "serious cash?"

Also, can you provide some links to this financial info? I don't even know where to go to find it.

Thanks in advance.


If you go to Guidestar.org you can make a basic account and access non profit info.

I can't see that A & E for 911 truth have filed any FOI acts or launched any court cases, can you find any?


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posted on May, 22 2017 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: D8Tee

This says they lost $13,001.00 in 2014 and pretty much broke even in 2010.

I don't think that constitutes as bringing in serious cash.

I'll look into making an account in the morning though to get a firm grasp though.



posted on May, 22 2017 @ 12:42 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

They brought in over 600,000, i don't know what qualifies as serious cash to you, but that makes the grade for me.

With that money taken in did they spend any on:

Freedom of information acts filed?

Lawsuits over what they claim are criminally negligent investigations?

Lawsuits over what the claim are false and incorrect data in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to correct what they claim is pseudoscience in the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to retract what they claim are false and criminally negligent conclusions of the NIST reports?

Lawsuits to have the human remains of flight 77 exhumed if they truly believe the pentagon was hit with a missile or bombed?


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