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-BREAKING- FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win

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posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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This whole voting conspiracy thing is crap. Did Putin come over here and punch all those chads, complete all those lines, fill in all those little circles on every ballot in the United States? Did he have direct control over the scanning machines? Was he there for the recounts?

People are so frapping gullible.

Jesus H. Wake up. We are, again, being manipulated by our government and our press because the Left doesn't like and cannot accept that they lost
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edit on 12/16/2016 by Restricted because: CLARIFICATION.

edit on 12/16/2016 by Restricted because: FORMATTING.




posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: projectvxn

okay, well

saying things like this-

This is exactly what the left in this country wants. Utter chaos, the destruction of American institutions, and eventually the deaths of all who oppose them.


probably not the best way to "come together". lol

i'm hopeful they'll release the evidence they have. maybe at that time we can have real conversations about this and not just mud slinging.


And what exactly do you think destroying legitimate election results is all about?

The left has come unhinged over this and they've made it quite clear.

It's the reason I abandoned the left years ago. I used to be very liberal because I viewed Bush as a threat to the Nation and it turned out to be true. Then Obama got into power and used the institutions Bush set up to attempt to vilify the other half of the nation.

Neither of these "sides" hold legitimacy to me. I've always maintained that I will shoot at who ever shoots at me. I don't much care about their political gang membership.

What, you think I approve of a bunch of gun toting troglodytes cheering on a race war? You think I approve of a bunch of Che Guevara wannabes trying to turn the nation communist one race riot at a time?

No thanks.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Is that why they wanted our guns? lol



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
the CIA said saddam had WMD`s but they couldn`t show us the proof because it was classified,the CIA has burned their bridges, they can no longer be trusted without solid proof.


They did have them but we gave them to them! A close friend of mine was there after the invasion. He had to guard one of the chemical ammunition areas. All had US lot numbers on the munitions. Probably relics from the Iran / Iraq war but we gave them the weapons.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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I dont know whats more hilarious... The article itself or the 7000 + comments bellow the article picking it apart and calling it fake news.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: Restricted

No doubt, especially since it was Hillary's people that got busted trying to rig the election in Michigan.

heavy.com...

I suppose they're so pissed because they were counting on the rigging to work and it still wasn't enough. Since they could face prison, well yeah they;d get desperate to avoid it wouldn't they?



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
a reply to: projectvxn

"This is exactly what the left in this country wants. Utter chaos, the destruction of American institutions, and eventually the deaths of all who oppose them."

LOL. Talk about hyperbole.


Are you kidding me? I totally want utter chaos, destruction of American institutions and the eventual deaths of all who oppose me. I was voted "most likely to seek the death of all who oppose me" in high school.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: muse7

But I agree, if they have proof they should come out and
present it to the country and Electors before Monday.


Absolutely Muse, and America is waiting. I think a lot of the
world is watching too... but that would make me sound like
we're opined as too self-important to care about them too.

I for one would hate to see a legitimate election overturned
by the Electoral College. But I'll also relate a Ben Bradlee moment
from his front lawn during the middle of the night to Woodstein:
"Dont p&lck this up."

The hounds evidently got the message. And fortunately for us
they were working for a different Washington Post than what we
are now graced with. Those two variables evidently now stand
directly in the opposite of the people's interests, as well as the
intel comm. When lies rule the day the sun never shines.

All I can say is, they'd better be damned sure there was a hack
(and I mean with TRACES) before we throw out the bathtub.
It's a big one, and there's a lot of rusty iron in there that works.
edit on 16-12-2016 by derfreebie because: Jason Robards did him well. I almost got it.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Restricted

No doubt, especially since it was Hillary's people that got busted trying to rig the election in Michigan.

heavy.com...

I suppose they're so pissed because they were counting on the rigging to work and it still wasn't enough. Since they could face prison, well yeah they;d get desperate to avoid it wouldn't they?


Illegals voted for her. I think that is more than enough of that bulls***.

The Left = Big, Fat, Loser Crybabies



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: derfreebie

The DNC server hack had essentially zero impact n the election.





posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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you think we've come unhinged but we think ya'll have seriously got your head in the sand.

all the intelligent agencies have come together on this.

imagine how you'd feed if this were reversed and Hillary was possibly helped by putin. take a second.... would you become unhinged? damn, I think we're being pretty calm and collected considering what the intelligence agencies are telling us.

just wish ya'll could join in on the conversation. Hillary is not going to be president!!

what's worrying to me is the possibility they've got stuff on trump or his team. blackmail, that's not good, us little guys won't win, you KNOW this. we need to come together on this!



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: knoxie

We've already been there since the FBI, the MSM, White House, Wall Street and Silicon Valley all were in the bag stooges against everyone anti-Hillary / anti-SJW. They still are.
edit on 16-12-2016 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
Trump should refuse to accept the presidency. He lost the popular vote and his acceptance of the Presidency would be a disaster for Democracy.



He mis-spelled "Democrats".




posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn


Try understanding how and why the EC works.


The cognitive dissonance is strong with you. You couldn't be more behind the EC as long as it's getting Trump elected but you completely fail to understand/acknowledge another legitimate and intended function of the EC.

Then there's this bulls# that people on the political left want to destroy everything and kill everyone (because you say so apparently) but then you admit that if the EC doesn't elect Trump, your wingnut peers will start killing people and destroying things.

What's really interesting about your thinking on this is how on some level, you realize that the EC electing Clinton would actually be legitimate or you obviously wouldn't be worried about it. In other words, you know very well that enough electors vote for Clinton, in keeping with the laws of the United States of America, she'll be legitimately elected President. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't be worried.

So actually, it's the constant threat of violence from assholes that threatens to undermine the legitimate election process of our republic.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

boo hoo.

go watch your fox news or listen to one of your gazillion talk radio personalities.

that song and dance is getting SO DAMN OLD.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: Joneselius

Unless they can prove that the actual ballot counts were a result of Russian activities, then they don't have a snowball in Hell's chance of making any changes in the result. It is all about every possible way to delegitimize Trump.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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Oh did anyone not expect Comey to flip flop and go along with the CIA director on this? The man isnt trust worthy.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: derfreebie

The DNC server hack had essentially zero impact n the election.


I wish we could Express Mail some hard data to Jake Clapper ex-
plaining the hack has been romanticized by Bolsheviks in his pen.
But that's just a dream... most of the Democrats don't even know
the origins of their modern platform, sadly enough.

One of my favorite quotes in recent years. How long we have slept.
Sometimes and in the more extreme forms, socialism can get co-opted
into a nasty flavor of communism all too easily. I think of Europe....

PS thanks for the mountain of data. You're the Atlas of ATS lately.



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
I dont know whats more hilarious... The article itself or the 7000 + comments bellow the article picking it apart and calling it fake news.


Good to know and thanks for posting that.

Not sure if i still need to ask this but, Where is the source where the FBI says all of this?



posted on Dec, 16 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: projectvxn


Try understanding how and why the EC works.


The cognitive dissonance is strong with you. You couldn't be more behind the EC as long as it's getting Trump elected but you completely fail to understand/acknowledge another legitimate and intended function of the EC.

Then there's this bulls# that people on the political left want to destroy everything and kill everyone (because you say so apparently) but then you admit that if the EC doesn't elect Trump, your wingnut peers will start killing people and destroying things.

What's really interesting about your thinking on this is how on some level, you realize that the EC electing Clinton would actually be legitimate or you obviously wouldn't be worried about it. In other words, you know very well that enough electors vote for Clinton, in keeping with the laws of the United States of America, she'll be legitimately elected President. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't be worried.

So actually, it's the constant threat of violence from assholes that threatens to undermine the legitimate election process of our republic.


No the EC is suppossed to reflect the STATES WILL. The majority of states were RED/rep. If they give it to Clinton it will not be doing its job. And they would also put themselves on a hit list.



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