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originally posted by: eluryh22
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: eluryh22
All I have read is they claim the intelligence community (which apparently has a lot more organizations than I ever knew about) figured it out because code blocks matched up with a Russian hack of other countries previously.
Now call me crazy, but had I been caught previously breaking into a countries secure data, and being that I was smart enough to do that, I believe I would write some new code to do it the next time.
If it is indeed a code block that is the evidence then I would look to those that found the exploit in the first place and who they distributed that information to. It would be quite easy to just re-use that block in a chunk of code and blame it on whomever originally wrote that code right? Or is that above the intelligence communities head to think that a hacker group smart enough to break into secure servers would be smart enough to lead them down a false trail?
Now we're getting somewhere. I find this fascinating because I know nothing about this world of cyber espionage.
So are you saying that the U.S. is seeing evidence of a break-in using a code from a previous Russian sanctioned break-in so they are saying it has to be them?
Or, if I'm understanding your post correctly, it would make little sense for the Russians to use a same code more than once because it would be like leaving the same fingerprints on a second crime scene that would obviously implicate them in both?
Is it possible that the first code was either stolen from the Russians or sold by (perhaps a disgruntled or greedy) tech person within the Russian government for the third party to use for whatever it was they were going to use it for?
I apologize if my questions are stupid.... but the extent of my understanding of "codes" is more or less limited to formulas in Excel and getting my emulators-roms to talk to eachother.
originally posted by: CB328
Show me ONE proof that this happened, one
I will take the word of the FBI and CIA over any anonymous poster on the internet. Especially considering that for the entire modern history of Russia they've had a huge intelligence system that is constantly spying on us like we spy on them.
originally posted by: schuyler
Just FYI when I saw this headline I went back to places I had seen a news story earlier today tat reported Russian hacker attempts on the RNC that were repulsed because the RNC had better security. Now tat I go back all those links have disappeared. What's up with that, I wonder? They were on Bing's "auto news" feature at the bottom of the screen.
EDIT TO ADD: I found it. Ruskies tried to hack RNC and failed
But to the point: So far all I have heard is that "Russia hacked the emails."
Were the emails real? Yes.
Were the emails changed at all? No.
So what's the problem?
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: theantediluvian
You have evidence of Russia doing the Podesta hack? Surprised you'd sit on such a bombshell. Maybe you can get on CNN with it.
Meanwhile, the DNC Hack was released the week before the DNC Convention. Look at the graph, her poll ratings actually went up following it, not the other way around. LA Times ended up being the most accurate poll, no?
If you'd like to pull up the "Catholic Spring" emails for us, that'd be fantabulous!!!
originally posted by: Pyle
Actually if you look at the graph before the RNC Clinton had a big drop which started around July 22nd when wikileaks first publised the DNC emails. So thank you for proving that you dont know how to read graphs. (PS that graph is # Jul. 10-Aug 30 with no other dates to help estimate time.)
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: everyone
originally posted by: Xcathdra
I dont know whats more hilarious... The article itself or the 7000 + comments bellow the article picking it apart and calling it fake news.
Good to know and thanks for posting that.
Not sure if i still need to ask this but, Where is the source where the FBI says all of this?
There is not one. The FBI / CIA refused to comment for the article, which is a red flag. Secondly the article holds positions that Obama settled in his press conference. 3rd the FBI / DOJ already stated there is no evidence Russia tried to tip the election in favor of Trump. They also stated there is no links between Trump and Putin.
The Washington compost seems to be just making # up now.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: everyone
Which garners the question why they are willing to say this happened without the proof.
If it's because it's "classified" I fail to understand. They let the secret out, doing such will have all the same ramifications as providing the evidence.
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: muse7
You people keep flirting with civil war with your Russian conspiracy theories.
Be careful what you ask for.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Restricted
There are no innocents in these Mud Pit threads. Run along with your hypocritical whining.