Friendly reminder Sanders loves breadlines

originally posted by: MystikMushroom

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: introvert
That's odd. The Catholic church down the road from me feeds the poor every Tuesday and Saturday with soups and bread rolls.

Does that mean Catholics support bread lines and Communism, or do they believe in helping those in need?

Context is key.

The Catholic Church and Catholic Charities are not government programs.

Maybe that's why they are successful.

Oh, but they most certainly used to be until quite recently in history. The Pope and Vatican wielded extraordinary power over the monarchs of Europe for centuries...

You could call them the real power behind the power. The government behind the government.

But they never were in the U.S. right?

a reply to: xuenchen

*glances around town*

That probably explains a lot then.

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

"Livable Wage"? Based on a whole LOT of CAPITALISM and private sector growth. Especially Denmark, Sweden, Norway. Very wealthy nations with low cost, sparse population, no Illegal Immigration in high numbers (Save Sweden in some part), independent, intelligent....and industries that PAY.

The US is far more wealthy and productive than any of those countries and at worst, just as wealthy on a per capita basis.

"Closing Gap On Wealth inequality" = Sanders cannot do it with a pen, and he would be up against an entrie Republican Congress that already thinks he's nuts, even many Dems do,

I never claimed he could do it. In fact, I highly doubt he could even win an election against Trump... which is why I think Hilary is the best option as the democratic candidate.

I'm merely pointing out that his proposed policies are tried and proven to support a happy and thriving population.

"Racial Justice"? That term has ZERO value in the real world

Unarmed black people aren't regularly being killed by the police in any other first world country, like they are in the US. The term 'racial justice' has plenty of value to anyone non biased enough to recognize this fact.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: spav5

2 cash cows are better than 1

That is why they diversify. But you don't diversify by taking money out of "stocks" that are paying off well to "stocks" that MIGHT pay off well.

a reply to: DBCowboy

It's just a hypothetical with no context at all. Unless you have more about this video clip we don't even know the context of what they're talking about.

All we know is that according to Sanders it's better that there is a Breadline for starving people than nothing at all.

That's it. Anything else you people are trying to read into it is just you filling in more information on your own.

He never even said the word Socialism. How do you know what the conversation is even??? You don't. Stop acting like you can listen to 12 seconds of him speaking and you know everything. You're just making up the rest.

a reply to: mOjOm

But socialism created the condition where people are starving and people applaud socialism for providing limited supplies so people don't die due to socialism.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Who wants true anarchy? In all reality, the problem in the USA is that the country has become way too large. We should split the nation into 5 or 6 independent nations (5 regional countries plus Texas and Alaska as their own respective countries). It's a simple truth that the US has become way too fractured between the rural and the urban for it to warrant continuation as a unified country.

a reply to: spav5

Who do you think will be building our infrastructure? Who will supply that effort in services and product? Who will profit the most from the spending of our infrastructure tax dollars? The wealthy. The elite.

Congress' record proves this time and again.

Also, Bernie will be led by the War on Terror and our tax dollars will continue to be poured into that 'fight' as long as there are terrorist attacks and refugees to have to 'help.'

All of it is a money-making scheme for the wealthy and elite.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

But socialism created the condition where people are starving and people applaud socialism for providing limited supplies so people don't die due to socialism.

Where is any of that being said i that video??? It's not. YOU are saying that Socialism caused those breadlines and starving people. You are saying people are applauding socialism.

All he said is that breadlines are better than starving to death. Why there are breadlines or why people are starving is never mentioned nor alluded to. You're just filling that in yourself.

Do people also starve in Capitalist Society?? Yep, sure do. People starve all the time in all societies. Not that it matters in this case because that is all information we don't have.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: mOjOm

But socialism created the condition where people are starving and people applaud socialism for providing limited supplies so people don't die due to socialism.

So your saying eliminating food stamps would make the poor less hungry?

...That makes so much sense, lol.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Removing the nanny-state would put the responsibility of feeding oneself back onto the individual.

Not the state.

a reply to: mOjOm

But there are some societies, like socialism, that control the means of production and deliberately starve the people.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

So your saying eliminating food stamps would make the poor less hungry?

Not what he's saying. The instinct to survive would make the poor less hungry. When someone isn't given something, they often find the drive to earn it for themselves.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Removing the nanny-state would put the responsibility of feeding oneself back onto the individual.

Not the state.

What part of starving or being homeless do you not get exactly??? It's already their responsibility to feed themselves. All the state is doing is providing them with a way to do that when they can't do it themselves.

2 major success stories ....

Great Chinese Famine


Holodomor



forgot this masterpiece....
Great Leap Forward

a reply to: DBCowboy

That might make some kind of sense if a capitalist system could provide enough decent paying jobs to the entire population. But it can't, so your assumption is wrong and actually borderline delusional... in the politest way possible, of course.

a reply to: mOjOm

If I already participate in feeding the homeless, would that make me exempt from the socialist state and the taxes imposed?

No.

Under socialism, the state controls the means of production. Why would there be hungry people IN THE FIIRST PLACE???

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: mOjOm

But there are some societies, like socialism, that control the means of production and deliberately starve the people.

Ok, that's fine. But you're inserting that into this conversation about Sanders in that video as if it belongs. You're just adding that information in there and that is misinformation.

We don't know anything other than what he says in that 12 seconds which is simply that it's better to have breadlines than starve to death. That's it.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: DBCowboy

That might make some kind of sense if a capitalist system could provide enough decent paying jobs to the entire population. But it can't, so your assumption is wrong and actually borderline delusional... in the politest way possible, of course.

So socialism and the loss of freedoms, capital, are a direct result of too many being successful while others are not?

a reply to: mOjOm

Talking about socialism, and breadlines. I extrapolate that socialism causes breadlines deliberately.

Socialism wants hungry people. But not starving people.

Hungry people can be controlled and manipulated, starving people riot.