Friendly reminder Sanders loves breadlines

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: mOjOm

Woodrow Wilson had many hidden socialist failures.

Study the history.

The Federal Reserve and the new 16th Amendment (IRS) didn't help either.

Study the money and financing of those days leading up to 1929.

Yep Wilson gave us FIAT currency.

Then another socialist gave us social security.

Then another socialist gave us medicare, and medicaid.

Then another socialist gave us the 'affordable' care Act.

And now they want to 'elect' a card carrying commie.

Oh HELL NO!.

a reply to: mOjOm

I'm being realistic.

If we rid corruption from government, then the need for socialism ceases to exist.

Socialism requires corruption. It's like an opportunistic infection.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

There will always be hungry people in a capitalist system. In a system where there are winners and losers and limited social safety nets, people will go hungry.

Sure. There are always hungry people. But at least with those limited social safety nets there is some help available so not everyone loses with their life. Remove those limited safety nets and a loss in the system could mean death of you and your family once and for all.

Then the Lowest Winners then become the next batch of dead losers and so on and so forth. It's a predatory cycle that consumes everything.

a reply to: mOjOm

Then it is up to me, as the provider for my family, to make sure that my family is always provided for.

It is not the responsibility of the government.

a reply to: neo96

Those all came after the depression. The depression wasn't because of Socialism. What came after were Socialist ideas because after the Depression people had Nothing. No help, no jobs, no safety nets of any kind.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: mOjOm

I'm being realistic.

If we rid corruption from government, then the need for socialism ceases to exist.

Socialism requires corruption. It's like an opportunistic infection.

Well great. That's a win win for you then isn't it??

Then why focus on convincing everyone of the Evil Socialism. Fix the Corruption and apparently you won't have to worry about Socialism anyway if your theory is correct. However you first have to remove the Corruption.

Socialism doesn't need Corruption. That's ridiculous. Nothing needs corruption other than corruption.

originally posted by: pirhanna

originally posted by: introvert
That's odd. The Catholic church down the road from me feeds the poor every Tuesday and Saturday with soups and bread rolls.

Does that mean Catholics support bread lines and Communism, or do they believe in helping those in need?

Context is key.

Indeed, it is key. The context of the catholic church bread line is charity. The context of Sanders is communism. Communism creates the lines in order to keep the population dependent. The purpose isnt the bread given, but the line itself.

As you said, context.

Ok. Then how do we explain the US and it's breadlines?

As it was stated earlier, millions of people rely on EBT assistance to help feed their families. Instead of breadlines, we have people lining up to get plastic cards...that in turn get them food.

In that context, what is the difference? The US is not communist, it's a pseudo-capitalist society.

So why aren't we including capitalism in with our criticisms of communism?

a reply to: mOjOm

People desire socialism because, ideally, socialism takes care of you.

There are people who simply want to be taken care of.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Please, give me a break. Socialism makes sense because not everything is best governed over by Capitalism or making a profit. Capitalism by the way isn't even a system of Government anyway. It's an economic system and that's all.

I'm also not saying to get rid of Capitalism completely either. It works for great in many areas but not all areas. Capitalism serves the individual very well which is good. But not everything in society can be about just serving the individual. You need a mix of Social programs and Capitalism.

a reply to: mOjOm

Come again ?

You think FIAT currency doesn't have to do with anything today ?

Or the US government being in the 'business' of retirement accounts that use to belong in the PRIVATE sector doesn't have ANYTHING do with todays events.

Same thing with the US government current being the largest health insurer in the country ?

ALL of it destroys jobs, that create wealth that create BREAD LINES.

That put people in the private sector OUT OF WORK, and working for reduced wages that they 'need' to be on social programs.

a reply to: mOjOm

Please, give me a break. Socialism makes sense because not everything is best governed over by Capitalism or making a profit.

Indeed give us a break.

Socialism doesn't make a lick of sense.

Profit isn't evil or the socialists wouldn't trying to PROFIT off the capitalists.

a reply to: mOjOm

No. You don't need a mix of socialism and capitalism.

Capitalism (true) is simply an economic system that only works in a free society.

Socialism controls the means of production, which is at odds with capitalism where the free market controls the means of production.

a reply to: xuenchen


Regards to that FDR meme.

We know who banned smoking in public, and has waged a fear campaign against smoking tobacco.

That put people out of work, and in bread lines.

Funny that.

The socialists have been doing the same thing to gun owners, and gun makers for the last 70 years.

YAY socialism!

originally posted by: DBCowboy
No. You don't need a mix of socialism and capitalism.

Capitalism (true) is simply an economic system that only works in a free society.

Socialism controls the means of production, which is at odds with capitalism where the free market controls the means of production.

You are using "True Capitalism" in the same way other use "True Socialism" and you complain when they use "True Socialism" because you say it doesn't exist. Well the same can be said of "True Capitalism" too.

Again, corruption is the problem. Remove the Corruption and the Ideal Socialism would work just fine as well. Remove the corruption and Ideal Capitalism works as well. But neither of those exist.

Not all things are better left in the hands of Private Business. Health and Safety are better socialized or else it becomes a system which profits off people's suffering. Not all natural resources are better left privatized either. In theory a good capitalist keeps the natural resources in good supply as he takes from them. But as we well know, greed takes hold and you end up with Easter Island. Some things should be Governed by the public interest as a whole body not the individual. Not everything but some things.

What bread lines?I see FAT people.

We know all them evil bankers, and ceo's should be in bread lines too.

Otherwise SOCIALISTS wouldn't be trying to bankrupt them, and put them out of work.

originally posted by: neo96

Profit isn't evil or the socialists wouldn't trying to PROFIT off the capitalists.

I never said profit is evil.

You're just inserting your own BS into this conversation.

a reply to: mOjOm

Sanders does ALL the time.

All socialists do.

Profit is evil.

Someone has too much because they are better with their money.

Socialists think they have some eminent RIGHT to take however much they want, Whenever they want.

And BLOW it on materialistic things they decry rich people for doing.

Then once it's gone.

Rinse and REPEAT.

That is why socialists shout there is some 'equivalency' between investment income, and salary income like the Buffet nonsense about how his secretary 'pays' more.

When the reality is they don't.

Socialism is the most GREEDY ideologies I have ever heard.

Always obsessed with someone else's money. That does nothing, but reward FAILURES.

originally posted by: mOjOm
Some things should be Governed by the public interest as a whole body not the individual. Not everything but some things.

But once we give authority over to the government, we won't have a choice to what they decide to govern over.

a reply to: neo96

All socialists do.

I'm a socialist and I do not believe in what you described.

Socialists think they have some eminent RIGHT to take however much they want, Whenever they want.

And BLOW it on materialistic things they decry rich people for doing.

That's false. You made that up.

Socialism is the most GREEDY ideologies I have ever heard.

You're describing unregulated capitalism.

Always obsessed with someone else's money. That does nothing, but reward FAILURES.

Considering the very nature of deregulated banks and the bailouts they received, you are describing the banks themselves, not socialism.