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Millennials Pick Socialism Over Capitalism

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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Yes, about a quarter of people 66-69 are still working. What do you think that percentage would be without Social Security? We also pay some of the lowest benefits in the first world.

Maybe that's the problem?




posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Don't forget 3 of the last eightyears seniors have been denied a cost of riving 'raise'.

I think the percentage of seniors still in the labor force taking jobs away from the 'millennials' would be considerably lower.

If so many people weren't brainwashed in to hating Wall Street.

Less people on SS, more youngstersworking higher paying jobs.

And Seniors investing on their own making more money than that absolute joke called SS.

But hey just my opinion. Doesn't mean anything.
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:41 PM
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I find it ironic in the era of hope and change, things have gotten so bad under Obama that people choose socialism.

But really, wasn't that the plan all along?



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing




Sanders is the only one speaking the truth


That is absolute insanity that anyone beleives that.

Sanders has never uttered one word of TRUTH.



NOw it does sound like your parroting ...Michael Savage. He's says a lot of stuff like that. I think Sanders is sincere in what he's saying. I could be wrong of course. Who do you think is telling the truth? Certainly not Hillary or Trump or Cruz...Rand Paul was, but he's not running anymore.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
How is this different then the anti-establishment of 60s/70s?

One movement was anti-establishment based on granting unalienable rights to others.

One movement is anti-establishment based on removing unalienable rights from others.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
I find it ironic in the era of hope and change, things have gotten so bad under Obama that people choose socialism.

But really, wasn't that the plan all along?


But that's it, right. Things didn't get bad under Obama. They're not bad.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Things are so great that people have to change the economic system?

I think it's Cloward and Piven strategy that came up with what we're seeing.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:53 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Is it a surprise that the most financially challenged generation since the Great Depression and also the most connected generatin ever is choosin a system that is more inclusive?



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: amazing

If you say so.



Who is John Galt.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
I find it ironic in the era of hope and change, things have gotten so bad under Obama that people choose socialism.

But really, wasn't that the plan all along?



originally posted by: amazing

But that's it, right. Things didn't get bad under Obama. They're not bad.


Right.



Poverty, Food Stamps and Welfare Programs at Record Highs

Under Obama the poverty rate has stood at greater than 15% for three consecutive years (2010-12), the first time that has happened since the mid-1960’s. A record number of people have been on Medicaid (72 million or 1 out of 4 Americans) and Medicare (more than 47 million Americans) during Obama’s presidency. When Obama entered office in 2009, 31.9 million individuals received food stamp benefits. As of January 2015, 46 million people received food stamps for a 44% increase in food stamp usage since Obama took over and record numbers. Food stamp users had topped 46 million for 38 straight months as of January 2015. (People don’t reach out for food stamps when good paying jobs are plentiful.) Due in part to the increase in food stamps, Welfare spending (not counting social security) reached nearly $1 trillion in 2013.

After Six Years of Obamanomics: Five Things You Need to Know





posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Stop it with the Social Darwinsim already. That is what it is when you think that preferring one political ideology over another is a sign of some kind of genetic evolutionary process.

The Millennials are products of a culture that has raised them to expect instant gratification which means they believe they ought to expect everything they want instantly, and if they have to wait or work for it, it's not worth it and should be handed to them.

Also, they have not been exposed to equal amounts of both ideologies in terms of how those affect their lives because capitalism does not properly exist but they have taught that it is exclusively to blame for everything wrong with their lives.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

This is going to happen anyway due to demographics. The smaller population of millenials will be forced to cover the under-funded pensions from previous generations with ever higher taxes and/or austerity. Pensions that aren't available to our generation the same way they were in previous ones.

I'm a millenial from Illinois and it's easy to see what has happened here. The state pension program in particular has made promises that are clearly not possible to keep and it will get worse in the future. My tax rate is well over 40% when you consider all of the income and sales taxes I have to pay by the time I buy something. How can I prepare for retirement when nearly half of my money goes to the previous generations retirement? (When you break down distribution of taxes, between 20-25% of my income goes specifically to pensions for other people)

Your post has a underlying point to a problem that millenials believe socialism can fix, or at least make our generation's life better. With a more Socialistic economy at least I will get something for my work rather than giving it all to people who should already have money from a lifetime of work. The comment that you would retire because you see the opportunity to get a little more for less is consistent with the point of view of my parents generation. The boomers have ridden the wave of wealth created by the 'Greatest Generation' and also sucked the wealth from the millenial eras before we had a chance to negotiate.

Socialism might prevent me from possibly ever reaching the upper-middle class but at least I won't be working until I'm dead to pay for people who desire money as much as anything else.
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: neo96

John Galt is this guy:



A petulant, immature child-like character ala Eric Cartman. Sack it up, Galt.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: SouthernForkway26

Or in other words, it's still all about you.

I simply want to work and keep what I earn and pass on what I can to my son (which won't be anything really). Socialism doesn't let that happen. It takes what I earn (or what my husband earns) and gives it to people like yourself because you simply don't believe you should have to work that hard to do it for yourself.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: peck420
Interesting tidbit.

The US will never be a pure capitalist country, per the Constitution.

There is no Constitutional limitations preventing it from becoming socialist.

Weird, no?


Individual rights in the Constitution make it a no brainer that such an inhumane system as socialism's collective could never fall on the people.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: SouthernForkway26

The easier route would be to place responsibility on us old bastards.

We take care of ourselves.

YOU keep the money YOU earn.

And if people don't earn? they don't eat.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:44 PM
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Anyone that thinks the Corporate oligarchy will fold up because Sanders is elected is simply a fool.

But if he can make the government more responsive to the people than the corporations; he's got my vote. That's more in line with the constitution than what is in place now.

That's what the millennials want....and alot of geezers as well....

The GOP and the Trump cult are the one's wanting to keep the status quo.
edit on 12-2-2016 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Not if they grind you up and turn you into food.


#SoylentGrey



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: amazing

Things are so great that people have to change the economic system?

I think it's Cloward and Piven strategy that came up with what we're seeing.


I'm doing good, so are my families and friends and my business is booming. I don't think anyone is going to change the economic system. It's just little tweeks.



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