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Millennials Pick Socialism Over Capitalism

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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: olaru12




the obscene disparity between rich and poor. R


What disparity ?

Why ignore that Americans make more than ever, have more benefits from employers, and the state than ever before.

That's some false narrative being spun there.

It also ignores that there is always been a disparity between skilled, and unskilled labor.

It also ignores the FACT that millions of middle class invested in Wall Street to increase their standard of living.

It also ignores thanks to the SOCIALISTS that checking accounts,savings,cds,money markets pay SNIP thesedays.

That's another thing Americans used to build wealth.

And we sure can't forget FIAT currency, and the endless printing of money that devalues it.

I love it when people blame business and Wall Street.

When progressives/socialists., and been the leading creators of that 'disparity'.


Socialists long ago identified the conditions that favor them, which is why they cause disparity then use it to their advantage to try to further their cause.

The sheeple are supporting their suppressors when they embrace Socialism.




posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

And what happens when the environment is no longer sustainable?

I'm not arguing flat out against capitalism. When there were middle class jobs, and wages weren't stagnant, it was a great model. But greed caught up with an irrepressible economy causing its death.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

That's cause grandma one day had a rude awakening and saw just how 'safe' that so called social security safety net socialists gave us.

And has to keep working because that pittances from the state after paying in to for over 30 years isn't even close enough to live on.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

At what point did they want cheaper products? Was it at the point they realized inflation wasn't keeping up with wages?

I agree with you, partially.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: EternalSolace




And what happens when the environment is no longer sustainable?


Socialism isn't sustainable.

See the law of diminishing returns.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: EternalSolace

Then look to the cause of job loss and wage loss.

Don't piss away a perfectly good system for socialism just because some assholes tied to screw the economy!



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: EternalSolace

People used to adjust to the environment to meet their needs.

Now they're adjusting the environment to suit their needs.


Glad I am not the only one who sees that.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Who defines those returns? Therein you'll find the problem.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
I'm laughing my ass off at the poor millenials.

If socialist Bern gets elected, then there is nothing stopping me (a boomer) from retiring early with my savings, and living off the social programs the baristas and wee, tiny millenials will be paying 60% of their wages to support.

Now imagine me times a few million.

The millenials are going to be sucking wind.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha


Yeah buddy! You wont find me being late to the trough either. SUWEE SUWEE!



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: olaru12




the obscene disparity between rich and poor. R


What disparity ?

Why ignore that Americans make more than ever, have more benefits from employers, and the state than ever before.

That's some false narrative being spun there.

It also ignores that there is always been a disparity between skilled, and unskilled labor.

It also ignores the FACT that millions of middle class invested in Wall Street to increase their standard of living.

It also ignores thanks to the SOCIALISTS that checking accounts,savings,cds,money markets pay SNIP thesedays.

That's another thing Americans used to build wealth.

And we sure can't forget FIAT currency, and the endless printing of money that devalues it.

I love it when people blame business and Wall Street.

When progressives/socialists., and been the leading creators of that 'disparity'.


Socialists long ago identified the conditions that favor them, which is why they cause disparity then use it to their advantage to try to further their cause.

The sheeple are supporting their suppressors when they embrace Socialism.


Well who are our suppressors? Not bashing capitalism, because one of my goals is to get rich with hard work and entrepreneurship , but...It would seem our suppressors are those pumping big money into congress to get what they want....whos pumping big money into congress....it's big oil, big coal, big electric companies like nevada power, big pharma companies and chemical and food companies like Dow and Monsanto etc.

It appears that we're being controlled by a few huge all powerful corporations and corporate groups that work together. We can also see that with the Koch brothers and George Soros...it's both sides but it's big corporations.

So what is the solution?

It would appear that adapting some socialist like controls might help, although maybe not. You tell me. Socialism isn't our problem though, it's those few huge powerful corporate entitites.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: EternalSolace

That 'democratic' socialist define it.

They keep adding, without a thought or care in the world of how to pay for all their little hearts desire.

Remember now In a 'democracy' the mob just loves voting themselves things. They know they can't pay for.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: EternalSolace

That 'democratic' socialist define it.

They keep adding, without a thought or care in the world of how to pay for all their little hearts desire.

Remember now In a 'democracy' the mob just loves voting themselves things. They know they can't pay for.


Except every candidate except for Rand Paul is going to keep all of our socialist programs going. Sanders is the only one speaking the truth. Mark my words, none of them are going to cut any social or socialist like programs if elected. I'll take the guy that's telling me the truth.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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I've said countless times, there's only three things that should be socialized. Shelter, food, and water. For the United States specifically, there's enough tax money collected in the HUD budget alone to end those three issues within a year.

Pure socialism is unsustainable. Pure capitalism abandons the weak in our community. There's got to be a balance.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Bluntone22

That's cause grandma one day had a rude awakening and saw just how 'safe' that so called social security safety net socialists gave us.

And has to keep working because that pittances from the state after paying in to for over 30 years isn't even close enough to live on.



They forgot to tell Granny that all the workers wont have jobs and will be conditioned to receive govt welfare in place of ambition back when she was happily working towards her safety net. They robbed her contributions to set up the very social programs that are screwing her in the end, all in the effort of advancing socialism.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: EternalSolace

Then look to the cause of job loss and wage loss.

Don't piss away a perfectly good system for socialism just because some assholes tied to screw the economy!


A crony capitalist, corporate oligarchy isn't a perfectly good system. Deregulation, destroying the free mkt. system and exploitation of the American working man, morphed the good system into something our forefathers couldn't even recognize.


Who? yeah Right!
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: EternalSolace




And what happens when the environment is no longer sustainable?


Socialism isn't sustainable.

See the law of diminishing returns.


Socialism was never intended to be sustainable, although great lengths are taken to hide this fact, it is an intermediate vehicle to the ultimate goal of communism.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: amazing




Sanders is the only one speaking the truth


That is absolute insanity that anyone beleives that.

Sanders has never uttered one word of TRUTH.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: EternalSolace

Capitalism is just a tool to manage a country's economy.

Don't blame the tool.

Blame the people who wield it incorrectly.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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Well, capitalism worked well for the baby boomers who are now aging. It's not surprising they have a favorable view of it.

The thing is ... "capitalism" in the 50's and 60's isn't anything like what "capitalism" is today. Corporations have vastly more power, vastly fewer regulations. Tax rates are much lower on the wealthiest people today.

And under the baby boomers they allowed systematic theft of wealth from the middle class. The boomers allowed the nation's wealth inequality to grow by "trickle up" economics, sold as "trickle down" -- they were hoodwinked by slick politicians paid for by big money special interest groups.

And now that they are reaching retirement, they have the audacity to shake their canes and carry on about the evils of socialism to the youth? Enjoying Medicare? Enjoying your Social Security benefits? That's socialism. To bad your generation was blind during the radical shift in wealth inequality, as now the younger generations are screwed.

The state of the country got to where it is under their watch, and now that the youth of the nation are trying to untangle and fix the insane mess that was made, they want to use socialized programs issued by the government, rattling on about the "good old days".

Well, your generation robed Peter to pay Paul pops ... sorry Dad, you guys probably lived better than you should have, took to much, were blind to much and now look at the world you're leaving to us to inherit. Thanks a bunch.
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

That I cannot disagree with on any level.

Like I said, I'm not against capitalism. I can recognize how incredible it is. At the same time, I can recognize its flaws and see its vulnerabilities.

I'm looking it at not from the past, but how things are now. Wishing for what once was doesn't fix the now or the future.



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