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Millennials Pick Socialism Over Capitalism

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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: ArchAngel_X

Well said, glad to see some common sense back on the forums, I was starting to feel alone but a few newer members have recently changed that.




posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: MystikMushroom




njoying your Social Security benefits? That's socialism.


I don't think there is a single person that is enjoying that 'benefit'.

Since the average monthly check is $1200 a month. Mostly less for most.

Which averages around to little over $12k a year.

Which is Poverty level.

Them socialists sure were looking out for seniors now weren't they?


My husband and I recently became eligible for our benefits, but we both have to still work.

As for medicare, that's a farce, you have to pay for it, and that doesn't cover medication, you need a plan A,B,C,D,which you must pay for, and on and on, and I wish people would stop blaming baby boomers, we have been poverty level all our lives, many have.

Oh and they tax it too. They taxed the money that we , WE paid into our medicare and then they tax it again, It is a lot more complicated then you can imagine.
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:02 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

You can't blame the socialist for taxing social security annuities. The 80's, the beginning of the fall of the middle class.

"The taxation of benefits was a proposal which came from the Greenspan Commission appointed by President Reagan and chaired by Alan Greenspan (who went on to later become the Chairman of the Federal Reserve).

The full text of the Greenspan Commission report is available on our website.

President's Reagan's signing statement for the 1983 Amendments can also be found on our website.

A detailed explanation of the provisions of the 1983 law is also available on the website."

www.ssa.gov...



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: corvuscorrax
Here come the old coots to say how dumb the young people are!

Some even got here early!

THE WORLD IS CHANGING AROUND ME AND I'M SCARED!


Don't call me an old coot.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:06 AM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: corvuscorrax
Here come the old coots to say how dumb the young people are!

Some even got here early!

THE WORLD IS CHANGING AROUND ME AND I'M SCARED!


Don't call me an old coot.


At least you can be a reasonable old coot at times.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom



And now that they are reaching retirement, they have the audacity to shake their canes and carry on about the evils of socialism to the youth? Enjoying Medicare?


You have no idea. I am a house keeper, my husband is a carpenter, he is 66 I am almost 66, guess what, I use a cane, and I have to use it to walk with so I can continue to scrub peoples toilets, my husband also still works full time and that's no easy desk job.

Please cut me some slack.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: corvuscorrax
Here come the old coots to say how dumb the young people are!

Some even got here early!

THE WORLD IS CHANGING AROUND ME AND I'M SCARED!


Don't call me an old coot.


At least you can be a reasonable old coot at times.


Thank you, I think, lol



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

To bad all the illegals used up all the section 8 and social security that was meant for you and you have to be on a three year long waiting list now huh?

Oh and they are also responsible for your husband bidding lower on jobs, if he's still taking jobs like that.
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

I am not blaming anyone, and thanks for the info.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Stormdancer777

To bad all the illegals used up all the section 8 and social security that was meant for you and you have to be on a three year long waiting list now huh?


I have never had section eight and I haven't applied for it.

I do rent, never owned a home.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:16 AM
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o reply to: Stormdancer777

Those subsidies are meant for you not for 22 year olds and immigrants.

Take advantage, please so I can feel like my tax dollars are actually going to an American who earned it.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:17 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Stormdancer777

To bad all the illegals used up all the section 8 and social security that was meant for you and you have to be on a three year long waiting list now huh?

Oh and they are also responsible for your husband bidding lower on jobs, if he's still taking jobs like that.


He doesn't bid he is an employee.

Isn't that something my husband and I do jobs American don't want to do
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:20 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

I would love to be a full time carpenter but I know to many out of work. Union guys all quit even trying to find union jobs.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Stormdancer777

I would love to be a full time carpenter but I know to many out of work. Union guys all quit even trying to find union jobs.


Yeah, he is not union so he makes about a third of what they make,



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

But they never work so that's how they break even.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 07:34 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Stormdancer777

But they never work so that's how they break even.


exactly



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: ArchAngel_X

That post of yours is dripping with unvarnished Truth.

It is as you wrote... the checks and balances were removed by St Reagan and the Despoilers (a fav 80's punk band... or should've been) and we see the results as a huge segment of our fellow citizens have been not only disenfranchised, but taken for granted and defecated upon daily.

The people who have some security better hope incremental socialism occurs.. .otherwise the time tested Guillotines, pitchforks and torches come out.. .and I'm not eager to see that ugliness, unlike some angry souls... we can be rational and lawful about correcting the mass theft and murder committed upon us these many years.

The most formidable force in a modern society is the accountant... and a careful accounting and sweeping away of corruption and ugliness is always a good thing... far better than angry mobs pulling folks apart with hands and teeth.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

And my parents are 69. They rely on SS and Medicare because the private sector has gutted retirements. 20 years ago their retirements looked solid through their employers, but in the intervening years that has evaporated. Only their quick and decisive thinking with investments has managed to keep them aloft.

The boomers were promised great things, distracted by the seeming prosperity they enjoyed. Meanwhile, the storehouse was being gutted around them -- ensuring their children and children's children will become debt-slaves to a corporatocracy.

I don't lay heavy-handed blame on them, for they were hoodwinked and deceived at what transpired during their "golden age of prosperity".

I do, however, judge them with cold indifference as they sneer at Gen X and the millennials who are trying to untangle the current mess. The people of my parents generation have no ground to stand upon as they judge people of my generation. The boomers will be gone soon anyway, what matter is it to them what future we decide to create for ourselves?

Decades of political propaganda and corporate controlled media have brainwashed the boomers. They now defend a system that has robbed their children of a future. It is not unlike an abused wife defending her abusive husband. "He's a good man! He only beats me when I've done wrong!". Abuse is abuse, no matter the circumstances.

I for one, do not buy into the media-propagaded memes --bought and paid for by our wealthy, neo-aristocratic overlords.

There is a rising tide in America. The people. The youth. And we are not satisfied with the world we have been left to inherit.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 05:59 PM
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If the millenials including myself have anyone to be mad at, its public education and that whole gimmick. Just go to college you'll be fine. What a load of garbage. Most people should not even go to college.
Looking back it just looks like a con to put a mortage on the young people without the house.
The university system should be embarrassed for its inefficiency.
forgiving college debt is bernie's big ticket for millenials.
Should be easy to cut all state/federal funding to any liberal arts degree as it's a pure waste.

Next up trade deals, who was right? Perot. a giant sucking sound.

An immigration system turned from 250k a year of majority europeans to 1 million a year majority hispanics not counting illegals. higher immigration of low skill workers depressing wages, as they obviously would. Doesn't help corporations have all learned to use H1B's to kick natives to the curb. Disney included

nimbyism. With technology, building houses should have gotten easier to build. But the older generations set up vast zoning boards and ordinances to make the cost of building affordable houses very difficult. permits and fees galore. All to protect their precious investment. added 100 million people and then make most of it unbuildable for average joe. what a joke.

Pensions/SS all schemes based non realistic growth expectations. Investing for retirement should have a been a private and family affair. Millienials sacked with paying for these systems that won't exist for them. An essential wealth transfer. it's not a tax because they don't benefit not even the appearance.

These are not really capitalist or socialist issues. They are bad policy decisions by policymakers.

Lastly guarantee free food, housing, healthcare for all and I will guarantee a flood of immigrants. Are you kidding me?
The EU is about to disinegrate over this issue after only a few years of mass immigrants, the schegen is about to be suspended likely indefinitely.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Millennials are possibly the first generation of Americans who have grown up in an environment bereft of optimism. I remember when I was in my teens and 20s, the future looked fantastic, and it seemed like things would just get better and better. I don't think there is anyone who believes that anymore. Yes on some levels things are improving, but life has gotten a LOT harder for these young people than it should be. Its much more difficult to get the basics for living than it was 30 years ago. I don't blame them for being bitter and angry. They have some faults, but in some ways they are more sophisticated than boomers and I do believe they value compassion and empathy more than previous generations have in a long time. I think if we give them a chance they might do some good things for this country, and not just for themselves. Time will tell.




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