a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
I don't care about others beliefs and religions or philosophy. It is a personal thing and as such it plays no role for me here on ATS or even in real
life. We should be friends first, before ALL other things.
So I apologize if I seem a bit like I want to bring someone to my side. That is not it at all! So don't worry everyone, I am not here to indoctrinate
anyone : )
You think that saints don't exists?
I disagree. But I should define what I mean by saint.
Saint for me is a "being". Not even a man or a woman, not alive nor dead. Because such person has transcended duality and views everything as a part
of oneSelf. And people like that have been around in all religions at least this is my conclusion as such people teach same principles but in the
scope of their religion. Be it modern like Maharshi,Milarepa,Rumi or old like Buddha, Jesus or even Vashista or older. it makes no sense for me that
so many people who should be 100% honest and pure would in fact lie or be just in another illusion. well maybe, maybe not. You think so, I don't think
so : )
but, again, I don't mind at all.
but anyway...why I believe that they are real?
people like us, who wants to know and understand the true nature of reality have always been around. People who just like to sit and be silent and be
an observer. And use the tools and techniques that we feel is right for us.
And the process which is unfolding while only observing is connected with what our beliefs and mental state is. Brain/the mind is a virtual
environment and it is natural for me that there are infinite paths back to the source. It all depends on us and our "false" way of thinking and what
lessons we still need to learn. There are no limits of expression. Just like in nature. You will not find two stones exactly the same : )
This process which unfolds inside us while we are observing, is in my opinion very connected to our own mind and not so much to the final reality -
"Oneness". So Shamans may see microenvironments, Buddhist see other things, Hindus yet another, etc...that does not mean it is all false or it is all
true. I think the main point is personal lessons and learning. All experiences in duality are here for only that reason in my opinion.
But attributes that such person shows at the final dissolution/absorption are the same in all cases: strict sense of morality, virtues, bliss, no
vices whatsoever, workaholic : ), siddhis and also unconditional compassion and love and many more, are all just different attributes of such
Very interesting read about the (real?) history of "chakras", on this link:
This is partly why I think that we are constructing and then deconstructing our own imaginary concepts, within with observation and meditation ... the
point is just to learn to let go... of everything false (ego,I,self,soul,chakras,etc...) and transcendent duality forever. To "die" while being
"alive". And get out of ALL illusions and tricks from Her in my opinion.
Ok, that is all I want to say for now about "the saints". I had to write that for other people who are maybe interested into real saints and how to
filter them...well from my prospective, it may be useless to others.
so... this post is not so much for you due to obvious reasons, and you don't need to reply to this if you feel there is nothing to comment, I am happy
either way : )
a reply to: beansidhe
thanks for replay. I agree for the most part.
The part about the saints is explained more in the post above and why I think that even some Christian saints could be maybe real in my opinion.
Basically, how we choose to get out of duality is not so important, point is to find something that suits us and not give up until we get "beyond" and
dissolve/absorb into "oneness". And I think that this was achieved even maybe since our cave man days only with different methods. Such persons are
true saints for me.
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