Dyatlov Pass incident...thoughts

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: Iamnotadoctor

Relax my friend, I was just speculating.

Well you did write:

There is no escaping the supernatural here in my opinion. Yet, they don't match any supernatural attacks I've ever read about. It's possible that something supernatural manifested and attacked them. This would be unlike any force I know about, though. Wonder if they were foolish enough to experiment with contacting the spirit world there? What is clear to me: 1) It's supernatural 2) Something was at the tent exit and scared them out, most likely after waking them 3) It's unexplainable by current human means (science, logic, etc.)

That is a little more than speculation. Lots of 'defintive' statements in there...

originally posted by: Jonjonj
There is an interesting website about the Dyatlov pass mystery, very atmospheric, even has creepy music and full page pictures with text superimosed.

If you go into the comments section there are a few links that may be of interest to you also.

Have fun.

Dyatlov pass presentation website

I tried to go to your link and my Barracuda Web filter at work blocked it and tagged it as Pornography. I will have to check back later from home to see the goodies in there lmao.

As far as the OP goes, this mystery has always fascinated me as well due to the completely over the top, unexplainable nature of it. I feel this will always be an enigma, never to be solved.

originally posted by: markosity1973
The weird thing about the whole incident is the condition the bodies were in.

Apparently they had all aged and were orange looking.

all that orange body # started to come out later as time went on. its not true.
as time went on the stories got more fantastic.

i guess the fungi induced psychotic break could have happened but i dont think they would have had the injuries they did. they could not have caused them to each other.

this story is cool because any 1 theory(for the most part) makes sense if you only look at one aspect but when you look at all of it nothing jives.
avalanche? i suppose....internal damage...lots of force...buuuuuut, dont avalanches cover foot prints?
almsa? i suppose. they took a beat down....buuuuuuuut, no soft tissue damage
mushrooms? no
parachute mines? i could see that happening. especially in cold war russia..... buuuuut, why cut the tent open from the inside? was the spetsnaz blocking the entrance to the tent?

super cool story

a reply to: TinySickTears

This photo creeps me out though

**EDIT** Photo was probably too graphic, pics can be seen here offsite.

www.emaze.com...@ALRQQRFT/Dyatlov-Pass-Incident

Because of the weather conditions, those bodies froze and had no decomposition when found.

So....

WTH happened to turn them into that

Yeah it is a cool story btw

originally posted by: SgtHamsandwich




I tried to go to your link and my Barracuda Web filter at work blocked it and tagged it as Pornography. I will have to check back later from home to see the goodies in there lmao.

It is also a pornography in its initial sense.

a reply to: TinySickTears

I was also crazy about this mystery until a friend in Italy gave me a rational explanation of what may have happened, guided by his own experience in the mountains.... not saying this is what happens, but it did make it less mysterious to me:

1) They did not ran out and did not leave the tent in underwear. If you look at the pictures they are all dressed. They may have not been wearing their snow clothing, but they were all dressed. Some seem to have boots on, if you look at the pics, but let's assume they were barefoot.

2) They may have run after hearing some noises and they thought it was an avalanche, hence they ripped the tent. I asked why they didn't come back to the tent when they realized there was no avalanche? Because it was really dark and very windy and that confused them and maybe didn't even see their own footprints.

3) The lights in the sky were proven to be the launch of R-7 missiles. Here is the link but you may have to click translate: www.alpklubspb.ru...

4) The bodies with fractures where found at the bottom of what looks like a ravine, maybe that crushed their bones

5) The missing tongue may have decomposed, it's known that in very cold places decomposition doesn't happen homogeneously and they were dead for 2 weeks before they were found.

6) Radiation- Yuri Krivonischenko used to work at the nuclear plant called Chelyabinsk-40. Even if he was not wearing the same clothing at work and out it is very possible to absorb some radiation, hence the readings were a bit higher.... perhaps?

7) The skin coloration is normal after being frozen, it usually becomes orange or brown and this is due to the ice practically 'burning' the skin

...I need another mystery... lol

a reply to: Agartha

1.They were without outerwear except 2-3 persons, some without footwear, but undressed wasn't.
2.There almost horizontal plane, a maximum that could occur, it is shift of a crust. The avalanche is almost official and convenient version for all.
3. The trajectory of flight didn't pass R-7 through Mount Urals, it is the simplest most to look at a point from where it was started and where had to fly (Semipalatinsk Ground the Koura on Kamchatka) Anything is proved by nobody and couldn't be proved because of privacy.
6. You on the right track, It is a little more and you will start asking a question why two of structure of group were buried separately and on what cemetery, and also who was this the second and why to it there were so many years.

a reply to: Agartha

if you fall down a ravine and wind up with crushed bones there will be some sort of soft tissue damage as well and there was not.


also, it wasnt just the tongue. it was the tongue and eyes and only 1 of them were missing those parts.
also, decomp takes time and wont freezing conditions slow that down? i think so

a reply to: TinySickTears

Definitely an interesting case, I'd love to be able to investigate fully.

a reply to: Beach Bum

There is a lot of researches in Russian.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

if you fall down a ravine and wind up with crushed bones there will be some sort of soft tissue damage as well and there was not.

Not necessarily, my friend, some simple fractures can crack bones but do not break the skin. The man with the broken skull probably didn't die of his injury but hypothermia.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
also, it wasnt just the tongue. it was the tongue and eyes and only 1 of them were missing those parts.
also, decomp takes time and wont freezing conditions slow that down? i think so

Like I said, in very cold places bodies do not decompose homogenously... and the eyes could have been removed by predators.

originally posted by: Agartha
and the eyes could have been removed by predators.

Predator which eats at frozen as a stone of corpses, eyes and language. Accurately so that not to damage all the rest. What for an animal such? The Siberian dragon can?

originally posted by: Cobalt18

Predator which eats at frozen as a stone of corpses, eyes and language. Accurately so that not to damage all the rest. What for an animal such? The Siberian dragon can?

Do you use Google translate to type here?

Many animals prefer to eat the soft parts of bodies. But I just found something interesting about the missing tongue and eyes (you need to translate as the page is in Russian):

However, major external injuries were found on Dubinina, who was missing her tongue, eyes, part of the lips, as well as facial tissue and a fragment of skullbone; she also had extensive skin maceration on the hands. It was claimed that Dubinina was found lying face down in a small stream that ran under the snow and that her external injuries were in line with putrefaction in a wet environment, and were unlikely to be related to her death.
sites.google.com...

Coincidentally I was thinking about it yesterday when I was camping alone in the woods. It always gives me chills. Such a fear from an unknown threat. I'm exercising my amygdala intentionally. 14 years ago or so I used to practise that kind of Buddhist fear emptying meditation on graveyards but one day I missed the sunset and heard weird screaming. Screw the ghosts of the past. I'm glad they don't live in the woods. There it's me who disturbs the sleep of the poor animals.
However it's not the same as seeing ghosts or feeling stuff. Something seriously damaged their bodies.

originally posted by: Agartha


Do you use Google translate to type here?

Yes, of course, i'm Russian.

If to consider that bodies lay nearly a month in the open air, it is very strange that a predator in the presence of such quantity of food, ate so a little. But there is one more moment, there were no soft sites of a body, was very cold and all body were equally frozen. Language with eyes at Dubinina was cut out when she was still live.

originally posted by: Agartha


Not necessarily, my friend, some simple fractures can crack bones but do not break the skin. The man with the broken skull probably didn't die of his injury but hypothermia.

youre right.
that said soft tissue damage does not equal broken skin.
if they were all hit with an avalanche i have to think one of them would have some sort of soft tissue damage.
even if they died before a bruise could form docs would be able to tell if some sort of damage happened to the skin.

it is also strange that only the eyes and tongue were missing from just 1 person. i get that parts to not decompose at an equal rate. tongue before skin for example. but then wouldnt all tongues be missing?
if an animal ate the tongue and eyes, why only from the one person?
the bodies were there for like 2 months. im thinking over that amount of time, if it was an animal it or they would have gotten after the other tongues and eyes.

dont add up to me

This is so crazy, cause yesterday I randomly wathced a movie on TV about this and today I open ATS and there's this thread on the front page Never heard about this ever before. Oh and the movie is called "Devil's Pass".

a reply to: TinySickTears

It's one of those truly 'maybe this, maybe that' occurrences.

It's hard to tell-Ockham's razor makes me think that it was just an unfortunate accident, but that raises even more questions than answers.

a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

I can absolutely guarantee that that is not some porn site though. There are definitely some strange redirects from ATS at the moment on mobile, there was even a topic about it, something to do with badly designed ads.

This is also one of my favorite mysteries.

I think they came across something supernatural/paranormal or military....

Either way, it is one very weird and frightening story. One of the top ones, IMHO.