Students Surprised to Find Noah's Ark Feasible

a reply to: randyvs

Oh please. That is a cop out again. If we can see the KT barrier in the geologic record from millions of years ago, a flood from a couple thousand years ago should be no problem.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: randyvs

Then where is the evidence? What did god do with it, and why is it hidden?

You seemed like a trouble person, I see that you are anti-religion and christ, and now are having a difficult time having a discussion about history because the bible does have factual historical events and places. How can that be?.... as your mind smokes.

You should not let your ignorance over religion cloud your ignorance over history and geology.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

The geology backs Krazy up....no world wide flood.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Oh please. That is a cop out again.

Nope this is the real cop out.

Again!

You ask for evidence from a world we know is
eroding everyday? I'm sorry Shot but, how in
the hell can you do that? I mean honestly?
How do you know we haven't destroyed perfect
evidence building cities on top of it? You don't!
The earth changes everday. So much for geo
evidence.

You seem upset that I took your toy away.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Which side? That a loving God became so angry with everyone on the planet that he decided to murder them? This aspect of the reason for the ark is important to consider.

On that note SkepticOverlord, may I ask if you believe a woman has "the right to choose"?

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Oh please. That is a cop out again.

Nope this is the real cop out.

Again!

You ask for evidence from a world we know is
eroding everyday? I'm sorry Shot but, how in
the hell can you do that? I mean honestly?
How do you know we haven't destroyed perfect
evidence building cities on top of it? You don't!
The earth changes everday. So much for geo
evidence.

You seem upset that I took your toy away.

using the margin of plausible deniability to prop up the veracity of your claims is fooling no one.

a reply to: TzarChasm

It's a straw man arguement and you know it.
It's not about fooling anyone.

More likely, Noah built a boat which held his family and his livestock during a heavy, localized storm and flood. The undertaking of building a wooden "Ark" large enough for the fable which grew out of this most likely reality would have taken thousands of workers over years to complete. And even then, The only animals to be rounded up would be those indigenous to the local area.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm

It's a straw man arguement and you know it.
It's not about fooling anyone.

its always been about fooling people. thats how you get their money for themeparks and other questionable expenditures.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
How did they determine the weight of 70,000 creatures?

If it's in the linked article I missed it.

As I recall, people who have tinkered with the idea of Noah's ark have calculated that the average size of an animal that would be aboard the ark is about the size of a sheep (which sounds about right, considering all the bug species and small mammals and reptiles.) So they probably picked an "average" weight of, say, 120 pounds.

a reply to: IndependentOpinion

Your rudeness toward other posts and their opinion, and telling them thy need to do more research is saying a lot about you. A lot of posts pointed out some very good and obvious points, I really thought GetHyped made it quite clear.

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: IndependentOpinion

They're university students, not scientists, no matter how hard you try and attach credibility to this unscientific fluff piece. It even says it in the source you quoted in your OP!

If they followed the scientific method, they are scientists.

a reply to: StalkerSolent

Except there was no peer-review and no replication of results. Quit trying to paint this as some sort of scientific breakthrough.

They are students. Undergrads. It was an exercise in "can 70,000 volumes fit in 1 volume". That is all. At best, it's a humorous math puzzle.

Yet OP is spinning this fluff piece as "SCIENTISTS ANNOUNCE THAT THE ARK WAS PLAUSIBLE!". No, that is pure fantasy.

The question I would have for those conducting the experiment in math, and it is a good one, but here is the question:

In addition to the weight of the ark itself, and the weight of the animals, did they also include the weight of the water, food and waste that would have been required and generated by the animals themselves, along with the people? With all of those animals, there would have been an enormous amount of liquid and solid waste. And animals do shift, so did they take into account several tons of wild life shifting from side to side in their pens as well?

a reply to: sdcigarpig

The answer to all your questions is "no", hence this is a non-story. You could calculate whether or not there was enough space for Jonah to fit within a whale's stomach but that doesn't make the story any less impossible.

a reply to: TzarChasm

its always been about fooling people. thats how you get their money for themeparks and other questionable expenditures.

Oh I see, Noahs ark makes me a con artist.
Great off topic arguement and so completely immature.
Perfect proof you can't accept the truth.

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great
number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Timothy 4:3

a reply to: GetHyped

Except there was no peer-review and no replication of results

It would float.

Deal with it.

a reply to: dusty1

It would sink. Rapidly.

a reply to: IndependentOpinion

This is incredibly misleading.
If we are to believe that the Ark actually existed, and that all other life was wiped out, there are far more species than could have possibly all been gathered to fit on one Ark.

The mass of a certain number of species may be able to be calculated using certain assumptions, but it still does not make this in any way accurate.

I am still waiting to hear the explanation of how Noah managed to travel the entire world to gather up two of every species which supposedly would have been wiped out by any great flood, let alone how he then managed to spend the rest of his days traveling to each continent to return said animals to their place of origin after the flood.

I would really love to know how he managed to secure every surviving species of spider, for example.

a reply to: randyvs


Randyvs,


In my opinion, the reason behind all the hate, is people don't like the idea that they have to answer to a Creator.

They don't like His standards and don't want to live by them.


I say to them "hey, whatever floats your boat".

But according to this article, our boat actually does float.