Students Surprised to Find Noah's Ark Feasible

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Never mind, you mentioned it.

a reply to: GetHyped

Actually I am bringing a bit of common sense to the idea. While the vessel may have been big enough to hold all of the animals, it still would be interesting to see if it could hold the sheer tonnage of supplies for all of the creatures on the ark, along with the large amount of waste and if it really could float.

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: GetHyped

Actually I am bringing a bit of common sense to the idea. While the vessel may have been big enough to hold all of the animals, it still would be interesting to see if it could hold the sheer tonnage of supplies for all of the creatures on the ark, along with the large amount of waste and if it really could float.

Probably not, the story of the bible is one of hundreds of flood stories that are actually quite similar and I believe that the bible version is meant to be figurative and not literal. The ancient south Americans survived the flood in the mountains and some floated they are not descendants of noah

a reply to: sdcigarpig

Actually the calculations in the OP were for 70,000 animals not every animal species on earth (which there are millions)

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: GetHyped

Actually I am bringing a bit of common sense to the idea. While the vessel may have been big enough to hold all of the animals, it still would be interesting to see if it could hold the sheer tonnage of supplies for all of the creatures on the ark, along with the large amount of waste and if it really could float.

But it wasn't big enough. As many people have pointed out, there are far more than 70,000 species. It was like conducting a study to prove that everyone in New York City could be flown from New York to Paris on the Concord and limiting the number to the capacity of the Concord. Absurd.

originally posted by: np6888IMO, dinosaurs are merely a combination of "different" large animals that were created during the 5th Yom(Eon?)

Come on, You can't honestly believe that nonsense? Wait, never mind, don't even answer that. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: np6888
a reply to: peter vlar

I don't know the accurate date, but it's between 4000-6000 years ago.

Where have I heard that date before?

So where's the evidence? The source?

The source is the bible, the evidence is counting up all the ages back to adam.

Yup, it really is as dumb as it sounds.

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: GetHyped

Actually I am bringing a bit of common sense to the idea. While the vessel may have been big enough to hold all of the animals, it still would be interesting to see if it could hold the sheer tonnage of supplies for all of the creatures on the ark, along with the large amount of waste and if it really could float.

The given figure was 35,000 species (2 of each to get 70,000). Modern estimates are that there are roughly 8.74 million unique species, and that number would be significantly larger (to a certain point) the further in time you look back. But even with the 8.7 million figure, 35,000 would be less than one half of one percent. So no, the make-believe boat couldn't have held all the animals, supplies, and waste. It couldn't even come close to holding 1% of the animals.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
a reply to: GetHyped

Actually I am bringing a bit of common sense to the idea. While the vessel may have been big enough to hold all of the animals, it still would be interesting to see if it could hold the sheer tonnage of supplies for all of the creatures on the ark, along with the large amount of waste and if it really could float.

The given figure was 35,000 species (2 of each to get 70,000). Modern estimates are that there are roughly 8.74 million unique species, and that number would be significantly larger (to a certain point) the further in time you look back. But even with the 8.7 million figure, 35,000 would be less than one half of one percent. So no, the make-believe boat couldn't have held all the animals, supplies, and waste. It couldn't even come close to holding 1% of the animals.

The title, "Students Surprised to Find that Noah's Ark is Feasible" suggests that they were pretty poor students to have overlooked that their figures were so hugely off the mark.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

The given figure was 35,000 species (2 of each to get 70,000). Modern estimates are that there are roughly 8.74 million unique species

On top of that..

As I learned earlier these students should have multiplied it by a bigger number than 2.

Genesis 7:2-3 NIV
2] Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3] and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth.

From what I can gather most animals are 'unclean' in Biblical terms, but that still leaves a good chunk of that 8+ million species being multiplied by 14 instead of 2.

I read that there is 10,000 different kinds of birds. Which means 140,000 birds in cages or flying around this relatively small ship.

8 million though lol Even if we multiplied by 2, we are too imagine 16,000,000 aboard a ship much smaller than the Titanic. The Titanic had what? About 3500 passengers aboard?

Noah's Ark is mythology as old as civilization.

D.M. Murdock is one of the best researchers on that subject. Between being an Egyptian trench master and speaking over 8 languages related to Biblical times she has written many great books.



"The Myth of Noah's Ark

by D.M. Murdock/Acharya S


Rather than being a historical figure who was the progenitor of three races, Noah is a fictitious character found in the mythologies of a number of different cultures globally, as opposed to being limited to one area and its specific peoples. The Bible story represents a rehash of other myths, changed to revolve around these particular peoples.

Like other biblical tales, the myth of Noah is found in India, Egypt, Babylon, Sumer and other places. The fact is that there have been floods and deluge stories in many different parts of the world, including but not limited to the Middle East. In the Sumerian tale, which predated the biblical by thousands of years, the ark was built by Ziusudra; in Akkad, he was Atrakhasis, and in Babylon, Uta-Napisthim. The Greek Noah was called Deucalion, "who repopulated the earth after the waters subsided" and after the ark landed on Mt. Parnassos. The Armenian flood hero was called Xisuthros, "whose ark landed on Mt. Ararat." Noah's "history" can likewise be found in India, where there is a "tomb of Nuh" near the river Gagra in the district of Oude or Oudh, which may be related to Judea and Judah. The "ark-preserved" Indian Noah was also called "Menu."

Like Noah, the Sumero-Armenian Ziusudra/Xisuthros had three sons, including one named "Japetosthes," essentially the same as Noah's son Japheth, also related to Pra-japati or Jvapeti, son of the Indian Menu, whose other sons possessed virtually the same names as those of Noah, i.e., Shem and Ham. As Oxford University Hebrew professor George Henry Bateson Wright says in Was Israel ever in Egypt? (51):

JAPHETH - Ewald...shows, with great probability, that this was a god of the north, as Ham was of the south, once again in imitation of Hindu mythology. Moreover, the fact, that in the Armenian legend, derived from "Assyrian or Babylonian documents," the three sons of Xisuthros, who corresponds to Noah, are Zervin, Titan, and Japetosthe, is very instructive, suggesting that the unknown foreign word was retained in its original form...

"Coincidentally," it was said that the Egyptian god Osiris was shut up in his ark on the very same day that Noah was likewise so disposed, as I relate in Suns of God (90):

When Osiris's enemies pursue him, he enters into his "boat" on precisely the same date recorded of "Noah's" entrance into his ark, Athyr 17th...long before the biblical tale was invented. Noah is not a Jewish "patriarch" but a sun god, and the tale of entering and exiting the Ark signifies the sun's death and resurrection. The story of the eight passengers in a boat is an astral myth, reflecting the solar system. These eight are equivalent to the Egyptian octet of gods, who sail the ocean in a ship.

Also of interest in this quest are the words attributed to the Babylonian priest Berossus, who described the Flood, giving it a much older date:

The Babylonian Flood itself predates the biblical by about 33,000 years, which demonstrates that the two inundations do not reflect one "historical" flood. Nevertheless, the story of Xisuthras or Ziusudra, the Babylonian Flood king, matches the later biblical account of Noah in important details, a common develoipment with myths. Berossus is even recorded as stating that Ziusudra's ship landed "in the mountains of the Korduaians of Armenia," possibly the Kurdistans, located in the same area where ark-hunters have claimed to have found pieces of "Noah's ark." This story, however, is not historical, and the creation of stone "arks" or ships upon hills was more common than is realized. Moreover, the Noah tale can be found in Mexican mythology: The Mexican Noah is named Nata, while his wife is Nena. In the Indian mythology, in the reign of the "seventh Manu," Satyavrata, the "whole earth" is said to "have been destroyed by a flood, including all mankind, who had beome corrupt." The prince and seven rishis, along with their wives, "

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