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Students Surprised to Find Noah's Ark Feasible

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posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Shadow Herder

Yea.. The K-T Barrier separates the Cretaceous and Paleogene eras in Earth's history. It is a distinct line in the geologic record that marks the extinction of the dinosaurs.


You're talking about a major global event that cracked the earths crust and wiped out mega species millions of years ago volcanoes, meteors. This is what they call apples and oranges.


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posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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And YOU are talking about a global event that would cover the entire planet in water, killing all land species and much of the water life due to increasing water pressure, depth, and lack of sunlight to the bottom. Such an event would be DAMN visible in the geologic record.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Shadow Herder

And YOU are talking about a global event that would cover the entire planet in water, killing all land species and much of the water life due to increasing water pressure, depth, and lack of sunlight to the bottom. Such an event would be DAMN visible in the geologic record.
You should then study the geological record.

It is, look at google earth, everything in light blue was submerged within the last 10000 years and before that during the period you mentioned most lands in the world was underwater. Pretty global.

If you are afraid that the if the flood is real then that would mean the bible is true than you are blinding yourself. Forget the bible and read mankinds verbal and written accounts of the past.
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posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: Shadow Herder

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Shadow Herder

And YOU are talking about a global event that would cover the entire planet in water, killing all land species and much of the water life due to increasing water pressure, depth, and lack of sunlight to the bottom. Such an event would be DAMN visible in the geologic record.


It is, look at google earth, everything in light blue was submerged within the last 10000 years. Pretty global.

If you are afraid that the flood is real means the bible is true than you are blinding yourself. Forget the bible and read mankinds verbal and written accounts of the past.


evidence of a flood doesnt prove theism anymore than fitting 9/11 into a spiderman comic makes the webslinger real.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:13 AM
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Parts of land having been submerged in the past doesn't mean that a global flood has occurred. The only time the planet may have been completely submerged under water was billions of years ago and even then scientists aren't sure that is the case. What I asked for is irrefutable. You can try to rationalize around it all you want, but it is the truth. The ground under our feet doesn't lie.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: Shadow Herder

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Shadow Herder

And YOU are talking about a global event that would cover the entire planet in water, killing all land species and much of the water life due to increasing water pressure, depth, and lack of sunlight to the bottom. Such an event would be DAMN visible in the geologic record.
You should then study the geological record.

It is, look at google earth, everything in light blue was submerged within the last 10000 years and before that during the period you mentioned most lands in the world was underwater. Pretty global.

If you are afraid that the if the flood is real then that would mean the bible is true than you are blinding yourself. Forget the bible and read mankinds verbal and written accounts of the past.
Yeah again, that means that WE ARE LIVING IN THE "GLOBAL FLOOD". No Ark necessary, just run for higher ground.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Shadow Herder

Parts of land having been submerged in the past doesn't mean that a global flood has occurred.


If parts of land all around the world flooded which the stories and evidence shows then yes it was global I see how you see it now. The stories of course are going to be local stories because they were written and remembered by locals. But every coastline in the world is now under 120 meters of water within the last 10 thousand years.

The earth did flood, or was inundated by waters, storms, dark skies, I think your problem is you are trying to take ancient translated texts way to literally and were more figurative in nature. That like I said is your problem.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: Shadow Herder

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Shadow Herder

And YOU are talking about a global event that would cover the entire planet in water, killing all land species and much of the water life due to increasing water pressure, depth, and lack of sunlight to the bottom. Such an event would be DAMN visible in the geologic record.
You should then study the geological record.

It is, look at google earth, everything in light blue was submerged within the last 10000 years and before that during the period you mentioned most lands in the world was underwater. Pretty global.

If you are afraid that the if the flood is real then that would mean the bible is true than you are blinding yourself. Forget the bible and read mankinds verbal and written accounts of the past.
Yeah again, that means that WE ARE LIVING IN THE "GLOBAL FLOOD". No Ark necessary, just run for higher ground.


Unless you didn't have high ground around. Like i mentioned before that the flood stories from places around the world with very little mountains had arks in their stories and the places around the world such in China and south America survived some by boat and some by mountains.

THe flood story is not just a biblical one it is in almost every culture from every corner of the world and these stories do predate and had no geological connection to other cultures.
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posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:24 AM
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The earth has never flooded completely. Yes, when the last Ice Age ended, the ice caps melted and rose the sea levels causing the shorelines to recede. However, water never fully covered the planet. Local floods have also occurred throughout time with enough of them building up to the point that possibly all the land on earth has been covered by a flood at some point. But you cannot make the jump that they were all the same flood.
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posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:31 AM
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Wait wait wait, hang on. I think we're actually arguing the same point here. He's not saying there was a Noah flood, he's saying that the Ice Age may have originated flood myths. Sure.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Shadow Herder

The earth has never flooded completely. Yes, when the last Ice Age ended, the ice caps melted and rose the sea levels causing the shorelines to recede. However, water never fully covered the planet. Local floods have also occurred throughout time with enough of them building up to the point that possibly all the land on earth has been covered by a flood at some point. But you cannot make the jump that they were all the same flood.



There was no doubt an event or events that was felt globally. The similarities in the stories from south america to the middle east is that the "fountains of the deep" were opened and that water reached the skies, the skies were darkened for months.

This is not a discussion of whether or not the bible is real fact but the fact that there were floods and some cultures rode them out in arks or mountain tops, in this case its the ark, the study shows it possible but I still say that the Noahs ark story is a figurative story on how mankind survived around the world.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes
Wait wait wait, hang on. I think we're actually arguing the same point here. He's not saying there was a Noah flood, he's saying that the Ice Age may have originated flood myths. Sure.


more or less. There could of been one single event during the ice age melt that caused a major tsunami and as we all know it doesnt take long for a tsunami to come and go. A few weeks is a barely blip on the historic radar.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: Shadow Herder the study shows it possible



The study shows no such thing.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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Why are you still focused on the stories of old? Stories mean jack when the objective evidence says they are wrong.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: Shadow Herder

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes
Wait wait wait, hang on. I think we're actually arguing the same point here. He's not saying there was a Noah flood, he's saying that the Ice Age may have originated flood myths. Sure.


more or less. There could of been one single event during the ice age melt that caused a major tsunami and as we all know it doesnt take long for a tsunami to come and go. A few weeks is a barely blip on the historic radar.
This is basically what we've been saying too, although there's no need to impose a worldwide, short-term catastrophe onto it. I think the Noah myth and other flood myths probably ARE based in fact, but that the facts are nowhere near as grandiose and Earth-spanning as bible literalists would like to believe.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:45 AM
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I think some people are missing the probable truth inbetween the arguments.

Has anyone considered that Noah's flood was localized, and didn't engulf the entire world in water? From the perspective of those who experienced it and/or passed on the information, it may truly have seemed that the entire world was under water.

I recall the birds being sent out, which is the only evidence that the entire Earth was flooded, because they had no place to perch. Well, this is a stupid idea simply because I doubt a small bird has the strength to fly around the entire planet, without landing, then back to the Ark. It simply searched *nearby* within a certain distance for land and returned. Also, you'd think things would be floating in the water such as earthen structures and gigantic uprooted trees etc. I don't see how sending the birds out really meant anything conclusive.

It likely was an event that correlated with the end of the last Ice Age. Other cultures in the world also have flood stories. If they were all inspired by the same event, fine. But it wasn't 100% inundation of the Earth; the highest elevations probably were not submerged, and people/animals continued to live on land in certain small regions during the so-called flood. A lot of species died, sure. A lot of people died too. Perhaps more than we'd know. A lot of extinctions occurred, maybe the Aurochs, Sabretooth Tigers, Wooly Mammoths, and other recently extinct creatures all went extinct during this episode of flooding.

But it probably wasn't overnight from the sky like the Bible describes. It probably took time and there were re-occurring floods all over the globe. Mankind didn't have any real communication abilities with fellow man in far to reach places, so it truly may have seemed like the end of the world to the people in the Fertile Crescent where Noah was.

Local species may have been saved by Noah, in his boat, during local flooding of his region, which seemed like it was global (which it was, just over time and without inundating the highest regions).

One pair of each type of animal suddenly becomes a believable idea when you reduce the number of animals on board, and you also remove the idea of *every* species on Earth being on board. Just enough to repopulate a small area, maybe the size of .. well .. who knows. It could've been the size of a town, a city, a state, or a country. The larger the immediate affected area, the less believable or realistic the story becomes.

But to say the story is outright made-up and not based on real events in the past is a cop-out. People make grande fanciful stories out of otherwise mundane events and have been all throughout history.
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posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:49 AM
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This. I agree that there may be some truth in the stories in that a big (local) flood may have effected different civilizations of the past, but it certainly wasn't the flood the bible talks about.



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:53 AM
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And not to attempt to go OT or derail, but ..

If what I just wrote is even halfway close to the real truth, it has implications for the Old Testament, because it means the flood didn't occur out of God's wrath, or if it did, it was at least a "controlled demolition" if you will over time and not in all areas at once.

If that is true, it also calls into question whether there were truly giant men and other abominations of creation caused by "fallen angels" interbreeding with human beings. As retarded as that really sounds, it's the main line of reasoning as to why the flood even happened. The other being that men's hearts were evil continually, so I guess everyone was acting like ISIS does, lol.

A world full of pre-historic ISIS and giants. Scary thought though!



posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:55 AM
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After Noah and the remnant of animals were secured, the fountains of the great deep and the floodgates, or windows, of the heavens were opened, causing rain to fall on the Earth for 40 days. The waters elevated, with the summits of the highest mountains under 15 cubits (22 feet 6 inches) of water,[27] flooding the world for 150 days, and then receding in 220 days.[28]

Interesting that the bible account is close to the south american account .
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posted on Mar, 5 2015 @ 10:59 AM
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