Timeline for a date with a firing squad . Time running out for Bali 9 pair .

originally posted by: Cinrad
From what I have heard they really do seem to have reformed .

They only started "reforming" when their lawyer told them clemency was their only hope, as before they were sentenced they kept lying and denying they were smuggling drugs.

a reply to: hellobruce

They only started "reforming"

Kind of one the ideals of inprisonment is it not .

as before they were sentenced they kept lying and denying they were smuggling drugs.

It is a well known fact that everyone in gaol is innocent , Ask any inmate .

a reply to: hutch622

I'd rather face a firing squad than go out half of the way these executions are.

www.9news.com.au...

So about 40 hours to go . Hypocritical pricks .

I wanted to be their execution witness, may this be a deterrent to drug smugglers out there.

Oh wait, it's not going to change anything by shooting these 2.

originally posted by: Forensick
I wanted to be their execution witness, may this be a deterrent to drug smugglers out there.

Oh wait, it's not going to change anything by shooting these 2.

It is going to ensure they do not arrange any more smuggling of drugs!

a reply to: Forensick

a reply to: hellobruce

Sadly i do not agree with your views on capitol punishment , but i respect your right to have a view on this that i don't agree with . Executing these men wont stop the trafficking of drugs , it wont even go close to slowing it down . A months time and this will be a distant memory as are Barlow and Chambers . Personally i am against the death penalty although i find myself wavering on terrorism , Isis in general . People always revert to the " they knew the penalty option " but this government is trying to get there own citizens of the hook for doing the same thing . Nothing i say here will change the fate of these men . Nor will anything i say change the view of posters . I am afraid this thread will be closed soon .

www.9news.com.au...

Rifan has finally detailed claims judges asked for more than $130,000 for a lighter sentence.

The pair have a constitutional court challenge lodged, which would require clarity around the president's obligations on answering clemency requests.

The case is set down for a preliminary hearing on May 12.

A little late .

Strange, the news report I heard said that the judges were offered a bribe and considered it. Not that they 'asked' for it..

Sadly, it is just another attempt by an exhausted defence to have it delayed so the politicians can exert more pressure.. unfortunately there's no pressure the government can apply, infact I believce Indonesia have asked for certain things and have been turned down

Indonesia cant change their mind this late in the game. They'd be seen as another North Korea with empty threats. Drug dealers and smugglers would not feel as threatened from their laws any-more either.

Everyone needs to accept it... then purchase their airasia super special return fora 4 day binge drinking fest in a bintang singlet and flip-flops, trashing their island with waste and smut and completely ignoring their local customs.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Strange, the news report I heard said that the judges were offered a bribe and considered it. Not that they 'asked' for it..

Can you provide a link .

Drug dealers and smugglers would not feel as threatened from their laws any-more either.

The death penalty is not a deterrent . If it was they would not be in the position they are .

a reply to: hutch622

they're in the position they are, because they ignored the death penalty factor of smuggling drugs, when they decided to smuggle drugs. they obviously thought the Indonesians were bluffing with those laws, or that the Australian Government would be able to strong arm them. Not only were they stupid drug smuggling scum, they were naive and stupid drug smuggling scum.

They didnt start ''reforming'' until their second appeal against the death sentence was turned down. The hours before they were caught I'm certain they were already planning their next delivery and cash profits. They deserve to face the firing squads.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

they're in the position they are, because they ignored the death penalty factor of smuggling drugs, when they decided to smuggle drugs. they obviously thought the Indonesians were bluffing with those laws,

So the deterrent factor of the death penalty did not work then .

originally posted by: hutch622
The death penalty is not a deterrent .

It will certainly deter these 2 scumbags from smuggling drugs and organising drug smuggling trips ever again!

a reply to: hutch622

its not a deterrent, its a punishment for a crime you have a choice to commit.

If you choose to commit the crime knowing the punishment, then you decide your fate - this is not Indonesia's fault.

Who can really believe the executions are about killing off a drug threat. The guys have been in prison for 10 years does anyone believe if they are returned to society they will reoffend?

They were given notice of their execution on Australians national rememberance day.

Indonesia ignored a request from Australia to delay an announcement about the executions of the Bali Nine pair until after Anzac Day, Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has revealed.

Ms Bishop said she was "profoundly dismayed" that Indonesian authorities had given Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran their 72 hours notice of executions on Saturday, meaning they can face the firing squad any time after Tuesday evening.

Who can really believe that was a coincidence. The whole things a disgrace.

originally posted by: AthlonSavage
The whole things a disgrace.

It certainly is, why did Australia allow scumbags like these go to Indonesia several times to smuggle drugs back to Australia?

a reply to: hellobruce

It certainly is, why did Australia allow scumbags like these go to Indonesia several times to smuggle drugs back to Australia?

Wouldn't Indonesia be a scumbag as well for providing the drugs or environment for drug dealing ?

www.9news.com.au...

In what has been dubbed the "last bit of dignity denied", the Bali Nine pair have been denied the company of their spiritual advisors as they prepare to face the firing squad.

So Indonesia is not happy with executing these men but they have to deny them spiritual comfort in their last moments . There are plenty of links in the article above about how this going to take place . Some ghoul porn for those wishing this to take place .

Father Charlie Burrows was present when firing squads shot the two Nigerians in the middle of the night, in a forest clearing on Nusa Kambangan Island, Central Java.

Something to think about .

"After they were shot they were hurting," Father Burrows said.

"They were moaning and it takes seven minutes to die, the blood was coming out. So then I tried singing a few hymns when they were dying. So you could say it's torture, shooting people. It's torture.

"It's torture. It's seven minutes to die so the heart is trying to pump the blood to the brain, the brain is still alive and as long as there's blood getting to the brain the brain is not going to die."

a reply to: Cinrad

From what I have heard they really do seem to have reformed and were doing a lot of good in the prison system, killing them will only help the politicians positions. They dont care about helping the people in prison.

I am yet hear of Prison any where on the Planet that rehabilitates criminals. Theres a reason they are referred to as"Academies of Crime" also a reason for the word "Recidivism".
Also the reason police follow those with records or make visits to them when a crime gets committed in which they maybe suspects. So many so called clean skins don't know anything about how crime and justice actually works in anglo nations let alone a place like Indonesia some very naive comments being made in here.

Btw even when the individual has a criminal record it stays with you so as far gov and big business is concerned forever
and only considered a spent convictions after ten years i know i have minor one.I have hell getting a decent job or normal life its only misdemeanor as well. But no help for me only for Drug smugglers it seems

a reply to: AthlonSavage

The French gov looks hypocritical in that case then because they have the Death Penalty never heard of the "Guillotine"
But lets remain navie and stupid about world facts because its a trendy bandwagon to be on at the present time.