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posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: fleabit



And Russia annexes a country, and people defend this as a just and right thing for Russia to do. I am still surprised that this site doesn't end in .ru - on any given day, it typically feels like an anti American, pro Russian site.

I am sure you would love if this was running just like CNN and following one side arguments in here.
Allows allowing to defend America's government actions in the world.

Since the propaganda agaisnt Russia on Ukraine worked you might as well start believing that the rebels in Syria are all freedom fighters and we should replace Assad with a Sunni ruler and let them be controlled by the Saudis ally and Democratic pals.



the U.S. is evil incarnate.
Your post cracks me up. What makes you say that its incarnate? haven't you seen the war crimes that America had committed?

Are you upset that Putin is getting a bit of popularity?




posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: SLAYER69

You're confusing *or simply can't stand someone being critical of Putin* confusing

There is an Reason why the Hate is on Putin its because Putin spoke the Truth and what he says about Ukraine right on point.

As for Crimea well least be hoesnt thats none of your concern Americans. After all hows that Liberated Libya doing?



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 11:29 PM
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a reply to: nukedog

You know it was a british invention the Tank, at first it was devised as a weapon to breech enemy trenches but over time evolved, so too was mixed unit tactic's but a civilian german observer between the war's was allowed to observe this which was later capitalized on by the German's and had it not been for Hitler overruling his own general even with the T34 and it's innovative sloped armor (Actually first invented by the Americans in there civil war and used on the first steam iron clad battle ships but then forgotten) the Germans would have won that conflict, it was Hitlers Obsession with Stalenbourg that tied the German army and prevented them capitalizing on there earlier success and Hilter overuled his own generals and field marshels much to there dismay as they knew he was making terrible idiotic tactical mistakes.

The AK 74 was inspired by the Much more complicated and some claim superior First assualt rifle in the world the German STG 44, The submarine is an ancient invention but the both the British and the Yanks have dibs on it though arguably they go much further back.

What Russia had was there massive territory and fall back capablility but even then without the North Atlantic convoys which where perhaps the worst and most deadly ship supply line in the second world war carrying supplys, ammunition, vehicles and weapons to the Soviet's they would have lost the war.

Had the germans had just another six months they would have won the war in the east but Not the west as they would then have been nuked but if you ever compared the King Tiger to the T34 and had the germans been able to just make a few more of them they would have won, had the german tanks had broader tracks like the Russian tanks they would have won.

Many people miss the fact we won because of a multitude of factors but as many people say it was an act of God that we won but not one that was not paid for in rivers of blood.

You know the german as late as 44 could still have won, they launched a successful test of an anti ship wire guided missile from a bomber and sank a troop ship killing all aboard but out of chance we intercepted the plane and shot it down before they could get back and report there success, then we hid all news about the tragedy but if the germans had known the battle of the atlantic would have been back on and we would then have lost, without our supply's britain may have been forced to come to term's and that would have freed up the German army and Air force to concentrate on Russia alone.

Of course the russkied think they alone won the Great Patriotic War and saved us, not that it was us that pulled there arses out of the fire after there erstwhile ally turned on them, and don't forget one of the greatest crimes of the second world war was commited at Yalta, we had only gone to war with Germany who did not want war with us because they had invaded our ally Poland, but did you know they Invaded only half and the russians invaded the other half dividing it between them, prior to this the Russians had tried and failed to invade Poland many times and had the poles (Who had a larger army than Germany) had modern weapons the story may well have been totally different but it is sad to say Cavalry charges against Tank's and first world war Biplanes against Messerschmidts were never a good Idea.

We understood that to Kill hitler was a bad idea as his more tactically intelligent generals would then have taken over the running of the war as early as 1941 but it took the russkies until 1943 to understand this.

Had he been assassinated the war may very well have been lost and though Germany would have had a new fuhrer they would still have continued with the Nazi idiology.

Ever weapon in Nato's arsenal has been designed to destroy Soviet weapons systems and modern Russian federation weapons are merely updated models of the older one's though the bulk of there weapons are soviet era.

The russians had the best assault rifle in the world but only produced 5 of them, a totally recoiless accurate assault rifle that was developed just prior to the fall of the soviet union and then abandoned, there current models include the excellent Abakan though it is still inferior to most western assault rifles and the older replacer for the ancient AK 47 the AK 74 which are not to judged based on third world exports and copy's as the ammunition very much makes the gun and the Russian ammunition is superior to that they export but it still is inferior to western assault rifles.

Trivia, the AK 47 was designed as an anti vehicle assault rifle with larger ammuntion, where as the M16 and its derivatives are anti personnel assault rifles, smaller round ( a soldier can carry more ), less recoil, more accuracy and greater range, though the Abakan and the 74 use a similar round to the NATO standard.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 12:03 AM
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Ever weapon in Nato's arsenal has been designed to destroy Soviet weapons systems and modern Russian federation weapons are merely updated models of the older one's though the bulk of there weapons are soviet era.


This is a strong and valid statement. US/NATO are already stepping into the Quantum computing age and Russia is still fully grasping with the Digital era. During the 80s, Russians were world tops in Physics and Maths but lost all the brains to outside world in the 90s.

Btw, regarding WWII, US was seeking a reason to get involved to save their ally the UK and Japs presented them a good reason with Pearl Harbor.

There was a ground to air bomb named Wasserfall for Waterfall in english. This would go up in the air and explode like a cluster bomb and release various bomblets into 2-3 km wide area. This would have blown up the various formations of bombers flying over an area. Many military persons call this as a potential game changer denying the West the carpet bombing abilities of the German industries and troops.

If given 6 months more, Nazis might have gotten their hands on the A-bomb and that would have cast an evil spell on the earth's future.

However, as to what the 'magic weapons' would have done to the outcome is only a 'what if' argument. But Nazis lost the war at the gates of Moscow and then next summer Hitler directed them to slaughter in Stalingrad. The next summer Battle of Kursk was the real retreat of the Nazis that ended only at the bunkers of the Reichstag.

Btw, greatest crime of the war was the direct killing of 10 million Russian POWs in Nazi captivity. 10 million Russian civilians also died of various reasons.

Measures should be taken that such events do not happen anywhere on earth in the future.


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posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 05:25 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Interesting. I had no idea the Osfront was so well understood. If you were to believe Hollywood nothing ever happened outside of Normandy. I like



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 05:43 AM
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Russias weapon Technology is what it is for a very good reason. Even American soldiers and Pilots who have Field tried their weapns and air crafts know what advantages they have over Our western high Tech systems. The Russians even explain why they Field robust weapon system. One main reason is that Russia have more than one apponent on the Field, not just the US. And these apponents are not some poor farmers With AK47 and RPG camping in Caves and buildings.

Hight Tech weapons systems are very often dependent on other high Tech systems. If one is out so it the other.

Maintenance on hight Tech weapons are often not possible in a robust arena and harsh weather conditions. And have to be done by someone else than the user.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 07:16 AM
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USSR will start the next world war!
america will make shourd they do.
even if they have to fake it.

like the many in the past.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 07:22 AM
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a reply to: buddha




USSR will start the next world war!
america will make shourd they do.
even if they have to fake it.

like the many in the past.


So America was the cause of the first two world wars?

And now from what your saying is America is the cause of any and every war that happened in the world...care to provide the evidence to back that claim?



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Maybe he means the globalist cabal will be behind wwIII? Some speculate they started wwI. I think WWII was inevetable after the first one ended. I don't think the first one has truely ended actually.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 07:37 AM
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It's either 3 roads; the good, the bad and a mix of those two. The good would mean peace, economies thriving, maybe a robotics revolution where the state provides food, clothing, shelter and education to the masses, all built with robots. The bad would mean all out war. The mix of the two would mean slow development of robotics replacing jobs, only catering to the needs of the rich, a divide in society of rich and poor and worldwide skirmishes.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 08:04 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: buddha




USSR will start the next world war!
america will make shourd they do.
even if they have to fake it.

like the many in the past.


So America was the cause of the first two world wars?

And now from what your saying is America is the cause of any and every war that happened in the world...care to provide the evidence to back that claim?


Maybe not the first war. But who said that the US wont start the Third?



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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Maybe he means the globalist cabal will be behind wwIII?


And yet he said many in the past, so which world wars were started by the US?

And saying he may mean some global cabal isn't going to get it, because first one needs to prove this global cabal actually exists then you can try and prove they started a prior war, or are planning the third world war.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 08:57 AM
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Maybe not the first war. But who said that the US wont start the Third?


Who's to say the Icelanders won't start it, or the Greenlanders won't?

I forgot everything that happens in this world is because of the Big Bad Boogey country the USA.

BTW they didn't start the second one either, but we sure do know how to end one.

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posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 08:59 AM
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Can't trust those sneaky Vikings



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 09:29 AM
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I can see Russia surviving a nuclear war. Russian are hardly people. The worst things get and more Russian that are killed the harder and harder they get.

Us westerners not so much.We are soft lazy and stupid. UK would be obliterated from the start. We would cease to exist in hours. So likely will France.

USA? I see a slow death. I see 75% surviving the initial blast. But I see a good many dieing helplessnesses when walmart runs out of Twinkie s and ready meals. The rest will turn on each other. First the mob will go for the political class and 1% who like cowards would have abandoned the people and be hiding in there bunkers. Once they have been flushed out the mob will turn on itself. The US of A will tear itself apart. It will be like new Orleans but on a nation wide scale. Only survivors I see are street gangs, healthy retired vets, a very very 0.01% who adapted quickly and remnants of the US military, either a few dumb surviving units who tried to stay loyal to the government, a few units that go it alone and many deserters who left to protect there family's and homes.
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posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: 2012newstart

Pretty much a reasonable statement for Russia to make IMO.

It's nothing that the UK or the US wouldn't say about their own preparedness for war, should it be forced upon us.

Russia is basically saying, look we want peace, we will not start a fight, but if forced into a fight, we have brand new boxing gloves and we'll come out swinging...one things for sure in most fights, both fighters will come out bloody.




Actually the people visiting the Boxing match will fall victim , while the boxers are being held up in some Continuity of government Bunker , the people with the biggest mouth hide the hardest.

These people want to nuke the planet just to prove their point , what a world.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: TheGreazel

Not trying to attack you in any way , just saying how childish these so called leaders are.



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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I doubt there will be a war. From what I can tell the same mobsters who control both sides of the Ukraine government also control Russia. If you are interested in looking into the situation this guy is a good place to start.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: spy66




Maybe not the first war. But who said that the US wont start the Third?


Who's to say the Icelanders won't start it, or the Greenlanders won't?

I forgot everything that happens in this world is because of the Big Bad Boogey country the USA.

BTW they didn't start the second one either, but we sure do know how to end one.


Island ??? Seriously!! they dont even have an army. They are going to buy a few guns (MP5s) from Norway next year to arm their police.

The US give thems selves the credit for ending ww2. Like no one else participated. The US proclaim themselves as winners of ww2 like ww2 was a damn competition.



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posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: LABTECH767




Ever weapon in Nato's arsenal has been designed to destroy Soviet weapons systems and modern Russian federation weapons are merely updated models of the older one's though the bulk of there weapons are soviet era.


This is a strong and valid statement. US/NATO are already stepping into the Quantum computing age and Russia is still fully grasping with the Digital era. During the 80s, Russians were world tops in Physics and Maths but lost all the brains to outside world in the 90s.

Basically true as far as we know from the media.
We don't know what secret weapons the Russians have developed since then.

Russia puts the heavy weight on the nuclear, delivery, and laser tech. Some say also plasma weapons and geophysical, Tesla weapons. There are Russian documentaries, but that is hard to be proven in the type of "CNN SAYS = IT IS TRUE.".

What is publicly known from Russian media, is scramjet reentry vehicle on top of ICBM that changes trajectory as approaches target from space with hypersonic speed. Another thing the USA officially don't have, are the several families of supersonic cruise missiles installed on all ships, subs, and bombers. While they differ between, they are a real danger for both US carriers and for a bomber attack with missiles that can travel 3000 km.

Laser tech, we know USSR tested such prototype in 1950s or 60s. We can only guess they installed some in space. Polyus space station called also MIR-2 was armed with laser and nuclear mines. Although Polyus was closed (as well as Buran, designed as nuclear delivery platform) those are achievements of Russian space tech. They come some 20 years before the first US space laser to be officially tested on Boeing. They were secret at the time. It is very hard to estimate what is secret now. What every Kosmos military satellite carries on board. The one that crashed with Iridium reportedly was "defunct and powered by nuclear engine" weighting 2 tons or so. In other words, half of Russian launches are Kosmos military craft with unknown characteristics. Russian general commander of space forces said the day Iridium found Kosmos in the vast space, that his forces are ready to respond in less than 120 seconds. (compared to the cold war 15 min hair triggered alert). Seems Russia feared EMP over her territory from that space collision.

The known "outdated" nukes are as much dangerous as before. One strategic sub could make a first strike with somewhat less than 200 nukes from close distance and time 5 min in which the US cannot react. Sure there will be surviving US missiles and subs elsewhere in the oceans that will probably retaliate. What will follow next only God knows. Putin already speaks of a nuclear winter that we will all die in, should we not be human enough. (RiaNovosti Serbian interview)

Some Russian scientists said after the cold war, we had such fantastic projects you would never dream of. But we lacked money. As for ex. particle beam accelerator in orbit (like collider, only linear and shooting the earth or another spaceship). I don't know if Putin's government found money for those abandoned projects. As in a computer game (forgot the name) that you develop space civilization and have wars with others, you have credits to develop this type of heavy weapons, or that type of smart miniaturized weapons (as USA is doing now), or you can develop infrastructure mega projects, or galactic business. You are not given to do all at once. Perhaps that reflects the real world. If Russia has particle beam and laser weapons, it will suffice little all the computing power of USA.

HOW they both got such achievements in so short time is enigmatic. Perhaps help from outside Universe from different races? Then you have India and China who compete for their place, and some analysts say they both are quite successful. China reached to the Moon in no time.

I don't want to be a prophet of doom, but if the current trend preserves, the lucky ones who escape the nuclear winter will be in doomsday underground cities, or even more futuristic - off planet on some kind of ships provided from outside the earth.
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