Islamic State urges Muslims to kill Australian ‘unbelievers’

a reply to: 74Templar

Well said, you are correct......and that is the intention of terrorists....to put fear into the ordinary person, so their way of life is threatened, which causes tension, stress, distrust, instability, etc etc.

It is really up to the peaceful Muslin/Arab to make a stand, whether that is thru negotiation or direct action, and show the World that not all Muslims are savages.

The disturbing thing is how weak the moderate, so called real Muslim is, with regard to their "Own" Muslim bred terrorists.

a reply to: gort51

The problem is, the average person on the streets 'aint that bright. They see the word Muslim and think bogeyman, terrorist, killer, you name it. And the MSM and government shove it down our throats and we accept it.

The problem is, there is an inherent distrust of Muslims the world over, so even if they do step up and show the world the average Muslim is no threat, either the dumb people or the media will paint it as a terrorist act.

Remember the endgame is to silence dissent, to stop us rising up. The government wants all of us cowed and frightened, and doing as we're told. The terrorist/Muslim thing is just a byproduct of it.

a reply to: Dark Ghost

yea right. we have to sing the same song as 'our partners' don't we?

The is about as much chance of this happening as there is of the Australian government only ever giving citizenship demanders conditional citizenship.

a reply to: Dark Ghost

yea right. we have to sing the same song as 'our partners' don't we, he said with gun at head.

The is about as much chance of this happening as there is of the Australian government only ever giving citizenship demanders conditional citizenship.

a reply to: seabhac-rua

Do you know what is weird?

We (the general population) are disseminating all their videos and propaganda for them. Did you know with every video they make, all they do is upload to uTorrent or the community texts or community video section of the Internet Archives?

That's it, two places. They put their material these two places, and wait for us to do all the work for them. The media picks it up, jihad watch picks it up, we pick it up, and it gets spread everywhere.

If we never did that, if we ignored the fact they just uploaded some more stuff, no one would hear about them but the people effected by them in countries overseas. I think its a love of doom porn or something.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

I agree. However I would never link or share their videos personally, indeed I advise people not to watch them.

I see these videos as testimony against these inhuman brutes, nothing else.

Your sentiment is correct, if nobody watched these videos then ISIS's propaganda machine would grind to a halt, but that's not the world we live in today unfortunately.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

We (the general population) are disseminating all their videos and propaganda for them. Did you know with every video they make, all they do is upload to uTorrent or the community texts or community video section of the Internet Archives?

you are 100% correct....here let me quote from a poster above you

Remember the endgame is to silence dissent, to stop us rising up. The government wants all of us cowed and frightened, and doing as we're told. The terrorist/Muslim thing is just a byproduct of it.

that quote is from 74templar.....

do you see a pattern here ?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yes, I do.

Yet, at the same time, there is a group overseas fighting - we do know this, the arabs call them Daesh which has the same meaning as ISIS, that is the abbreviation, which people call them using it as a word.

So, the group themselves do exist. They are fighting in the middle east.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

...i would wager with a surprise raid of this magnitude on the Jehovah's witnesses they would be able to net at least 2 arrests for some form of terrorism...

I'm a gambler....and I like the odds, I'd take that bet.

Please show me one example of Jehovah Witnesses carrying out a terrorist attack anywhere in the world?

I think they are quite a vile belief system and have probably been complicit in carrying out many crimes within their own communities, but they aren't terrorists.
They don't blow buildings / cars etc up.
They don't butcher people in the street.
They don't execute apostates etc.
All in the name of their 'God'.

The fact is that the vast majority of terrorists in the world at present are Muslims.

Or do you deny that?

So, the group themselves do exist. They are fighting in the middle east.

a reply to: [post=18449628]OpinionatedB[/post

yes they exist no doubt...do they exist here in the western world ?

a reply to: Freeborn

The fact is that the vast majority of terrorists in the world at present are Muslims. Or do you deny that?

you have a valid argument...although that can only be argued in what we hear about the middle east...can you show me acts of terrorism here in australia and or any other western society...

and more to that why are our governments looking to implement terrorism laws on the everyday citizen in the western world >?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

??????

Just off the top of my head how about the 2002 Bali bombings?

88 Australians killed in that attack, along with 27 britons and 7 Americans.

202 people in total killed by radical Muslims.

C'mon man seriously?

originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

??????

Just off the top of my head how about the 2002 Bali bombings?

88 Australians killed in that attack, along with 27 britons and 7 Americans.

202 people in total killed by radical Muslims.

C'mon man seriously?

that attack was seriously no cool.....

how many australians travel to bali each year ?
when you figure out the answer to that question you will see it is not the norm...

and in breaking news authorities have just caught a guy who made threats against our PM...www.abovetopsecret.com... is it just me or is this some kind of bad dream...

Even though an Aussie dies in Bali every nine days, last year saw 16,000 jump on planes there a week, with 2.5 million tourist arrivals between January and September, more than 600,000 of whom were Australians.

www.heraldsun.com.au... a04947

a reply to: OpinionatedB

we do know this, the arabs call them Daesh which has the same meaning as ISIS,

...that would be the french...and you got that from this thread...www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

how many australians travel to bali each year ?
when you figure out the answer to that question you will see it is not the norm...

I don't understand your point?

and in breaking news authorities have just caught a guy who made threats against our PM...www.abovetopsecret.com... is it just me or is this some kind of bad dream...

I agree, things are going a bit mental....

originally posted by: seabhac-rua

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

how many australians travel to bali each year ?
when you figure out the answer to that question you will see it is not the norm...

I don't understand your point?

my point is if this was the norm 600 000 odd aussies would not be going to bali each and every year

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

You asked for an example of an act of terrorism carried out on the West outside of the ME, I gave you one, an attack in which 88 of your countrymen were killed.

That so many Aussies still go to Bali every year proves 2 things in my mind, they're not afraid of terrorism and/or most of them were probably children when the 2002 attack happened and don't remember it.

Is that what you mean? Or am I missing something?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

can you show me acts of terrorism here in australia and or any other western society...

Unfortunately there's been quite a few here in the UK.

Please look at the instances since 2004 / 2005 when the peace process took effect in Northern Ireland.
Don't just look at the number of actual attacks but also the number of foiled attacks.

en.wikipedia.org...

The vast majority of terrorist attacks in the UK since 2001 have been Islamic inspired.

The UK is not unique.
Here is a map from 2011 showing the country's where there have been terrorist attacks by extremist Islamic groups.
Its worth noting that since then Boko Harem have been slaughtering thousands of Christians etc in Nigeria.

www.telegraph.co.uk... 011.html

...and more to that why are our governments looking to implement terrorism laws on the everyday citizen in the western world >?

The threat from Muslim fundamentalist terrorist organisations is real.
I sincerely hope there is no actual attack in Australia.

I know the security service have foiled numerous terrorist plots here in the UK - some we are aware of, some we probably never will be.
Have increased surveillance powers enabled the security forces to perform their duties and protect UK citizens better?
I honestly don't know.
But I do know that I haven't had to go about my life in any different way - I don't feel more spied on or threatened.
The government aren't knocking peoples doors down and arresting them for committing previously unknown crimes.
People aren't disappearing in the middle of the night.
I don't feel any more unable to express my personal opinions on political issues or current affairs.

Would granting even more power to the security services and police pose a threat to me personally.
Most definitely.

There is a fine line that must be walked between providing those who are tasked with defending this country all the tools necessary to do so whilst not intruding upon individual and group civil liberties.

I hope Australia never has to witness the effects of terrorism at first hand.
Nor do I wish to see its people lose any of their rights - too much was sacrificed to ensure them.

A difficult call for anyone.

That we entrust that decision making to some of the most corrupt, amoral people we can imagine is a very scary thought.

originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

You asked for an example of an act of terrorism carried out on the West outside of the ME, I gave you one, an attack in which 88 of your countrymen were killed.

That so many Aussies still go to Bali every year proves 2 things in my mind, they're not afraid of terrorism and/or most of them were probably children when the 2002 attack happened and don't remember it.

Is that what you mean? Or am I missing something?

those 88 people is still a sore point...and will always be....aussies have been going to bali for years and years....many children of the parents who used to travel in bali still go there......it is not that we are afraid of terrorism...(who in their right mind isnt?)..it is not the norm forb aussies to travel there.....it was a one off event and hopefully will never happen again...just google how many aussies live in bali?...yes i know there are many muslims in indonesia...they have one of the highest populations of muslims in the world....point being they are not all bad

a reply to: Freeborn

That we entrust that decision making to some of the most corrupt, amoral people we can imagine is a very scary thought.

that is where the problem lies..right there...instead of helping to fix the problem they use it to further their agendas....it is a lose lose for the general population