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Islamic State urges Muslims to kill Australian ‘unbelievers’

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posted on Sep, 23 2014 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

Yep. That'll do it.

Billy get your guns.

We're goin' ta war.

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It was the night our terror fears became manifest.


But the government and the media wouldn't fear monger to get their point across? Would they?




posted on Sep, 23 2014 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: Dark Ghost


What are your views when it comes to IS, the Middle East and terrorism?

I believe there real, though not as big as they claim. I also believe they were both intentionally and inadvertently created by western and other world powers if for nothing else but to keep the business of war going, and I also believe its a game of merry go round in that whole region and will likely continue to be so for a long while. I also believe that its a lose lose situation, and really for the average guy or gal there is nothing to gain from even being there, and while sending help or troops may be well. That has more often then not just lead to one side or group just trying to work over the other so its pick your poison.

Really I am not even sure if a full scale occupation is what we should do, or if we should stay away from the whole thing and cut all contact and definitely all contracts, either option is likely going to lead to US or anybody going in there or staying away as being either the bad guys, or the bad guys because they did not send help in one form or another, even if its shipping in troops which will bring some semblance of peace.

And given the multitude of interests in the area both from abroad and from home, really its anybody's game because that also means we wont be staying away. And so, and although this phrase originally started to usher in the Olympics back in ancient Greece, from Rome on upwards it has come to take on many meanings and interpretations ever since then. As they say, let the games begin.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:03 AM
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I currently work on a military base in Australia and its a very serious situation , but as Australians we don't fear much until you interfere with our way of life , then we will # you up , so here in lies the problem poor uneducated muslims do kill , you never see a sheik or an imam fighting do you simply because they are educated enough not to put themselves in harms way , they will wait until they have a victory then come out shoot a gun into the air as if they fought the battle the grubs , sad for the good muslims



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: Dark Ghost

This news is nearly twelve hours old now, but I haven't seen it mentioned on this thread...

Last night in Victoria, at Endeavour Hills (a suburb on the South east side of Melbourne), an eighteen year old Muslim extremist took the Fatwa issued by ISIS command, quite seriously.

He showed up at the Endeavour Hill Police Station for an interview with officers and as they greeted him, he produced a knife and stabbed them both. Apparently his plan was to kill and behead them, which was cut short when other officers came out of the station and opened fire on the guy, killing him before he could do it.

Both officers are in hospital right now, one was in a critical condition, however his condition has been downgraded over night.

So, was this fatwa from ISIS a real threat to Australia..?

Damn Right it was..!!

This guy was one of the people who's passport had been cancelled and he was under investigation for terrorist/ISIS links.

They are home grown and thus already here.

This was the first actual attack, I doubt it was the last.

There are hundreds (possibly thousands), of these little bastards being brainwashed by the possibility of gaining glory with ISIS and we have just seen that they are quite capable of being ISIS tools here in AU.

And we have just seen first hand what the results can be.

Thankfully, these home grown losers are totally clueless, scattered, untrained and lack the ability to mount or coordinate anything on a large scale such as what we are seeing in Syria and Iraq.

Hope the police/army/ASIO take them all down before they do come together and coordinate mass beheadings or something.
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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: Ironclad2000

I think it was mentioned already in the thread but at the time little or no facts about the incident were available.

That said.

Was this a terrorist attack on Australian soil folks? The kid went to the police station, for an interview, with the intention of killing one or more police officers. Was he answering ISIS's call to murder? Of course this can't be proven now, but maybe some more information will come to light.



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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: seabhac-rua

I'm fairly sure that he was acting on the behalf of ISIS (regardless of all the facts).

He was already under investigation, he had already tried to leave the country to join ISIS (but was unable to due to his passport cancellation), he had links to the organisation.

Don't need to be a rocket scientist to do this math.

But you are right, until all the facts are in, he was just another crazy, doing what crazies do.

Pretty sure though when those facts do come in, we'll find he was indeed a home grown ISIS wannabe martyr, looking to go to paradise.

Hope Allah is pissed at him for failing his mission...lol



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:39 AM
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a reply to: Ironclad2000

I agree.

Lets hope there's not more of this to come.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: Ironclad2000
Apparently his plan was to kill and behead them, which was cut short when other officers came out of the station and opened fire on the guy, killing him before he could do it.


Actually one of the officers who were stabbed shot him dead... with 1 shot.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: 74Templar
a reply to: hellobruce

Yep. That'll do it.

Billy get your guns.

We're goin' ta war.

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It was the night our terror fears became manifest.


But the government and the media wouldn't fear monger to get their point across? Would they?





as you can see they dont need to...we have all the wonderful members here to do their job for them....we can call it fear porn
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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 07:36 AM
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One other thing I'm pretty sure of is that there's going to be a "lot", more to come.

What has me particularly worried is that ISIS command has also included some hints as to ways and means of attack.

One of those is to light wildfires and kill emergency personnel as they arrive at incidents.

I just happen to be a Wildland firefighter and am getting quite edgy about the coming fire season here in AU. It's dangerous enough out there as it is, I really don't need this extra threat in the back of my mind when first responding to major incidents.

I just hope the authorities can sort these thugs out quickly.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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I've been reading the thread, and wanted to add something about the Patriot Act.

You guys are on ATS. You know, then, that's it's filled with alarmists. Anything they can get alarmed about, and hysterical about, they do. When the Patriot Act was introduced, lots of folks in the USA absolutely Freaked-Out. It was ridiculous to the level they took it, however, valid to a degree, because we didn't completely understand what it meant for us.

Since the Patriot Act, the only difference I have noticed in my life, is that it takes longer at the airport. That's it.

So all the "OMG, they can do this, and that, and our lives are ruined and changed forever" and all those horrendous things they predicted, never happened.

Just keep that in mind.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 09:29 AM
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Pretty much confirmed now that Abdul Numan Haider was acting on ISIS encouragement to kill.

There's images of himself in Jihad gear and holding the ISIS flag on his own FB page.

So Terrorist it is...!!

I bet mommy and daddy are really proud of him...lol



originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Ironclad2000
Apparently his plan was to kill and behead them, which was cut short when other officers came out of the station and opened fire on the guy, killing him before he could do it.


Actually one of the officers who were stabbed shot him dead... with 1 shot.


Ahh, when I heard it first I was initially told that other police came out and fired. I suppose in the heat of it all, things can be confusing.

I am from this area. I actually grew up in Doveton (the next suburb) and went to secondary college in Endeavour Hills. It used to be pretty safe there "sorta"...lol. How the place has changed in just the last ten years years..

They actually now call Frankston (another burb in the area), Franganistan...lol
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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: Ironclad2000

One of those is to light wildfires and kill emergency personnel as they arrive at incidents.



Any source for that please?



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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Yeah you are right! Link

HE 18-year-old Islamic terrorist shot dead by police after his frenzied knife attack on two counter- terrorism officers had recently contacted jihadists in Iraq and Syria, prompting authorities to cancel his passport last week. The Daily Telegraph can confirm Abdul Numan Haider had been picked up in the intelligence sweep of “chatter” about ­potential threats to Parliament House, and he had been following the movements of government officials online, including PM Tony Abbott.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 09:37 AM
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Tell that to the family of the cop who was struggling for his life in hospital last night.

Ye see that's the problem with people who are conspiracy prone, the actual truth starts to loose headway and is gained upon by the myopic view that everything is a lie. Conspiracies are real, but not all of them.



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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: seabhac-rua

originally posted by: Ironclad2000

One of those is to light wildfires and kill emergency personnel as they arrive at incidents.



Any source for that please?



Yes, there is...



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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: Ironclad2000

Don't get me wrong, I'm not disputing what you're saying.

I'd just like to read what you've read.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 10:16 AM
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I have never been able to understand the type of person that is radical. I think this is most of our problems isn't it? It scares all of us somewhere inside. From the street gang member to the religious fanatic who can kill, its scarey.

I was talking to my husband the other night about how the whole situation confuses me so much. I would think inside of a person they would have the capacity to know right from wrong and that thing inside would prevent a human being from hurting another person.

He answered me saying there is something that is inside of them that is broken. I agree with that.

But I also wonder, is that same thing broken inside most of us? We apparently rejoice in murder the same as them, our rejoicing just looks a bit more like rejoicing in self defense, but is it really? I don't always know.

Look at how many people wanted, desired all this to happen, and you have to wonder if we are just as broken as they are somehow.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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Australia is not known for taking # from immigrants.

They have camels and deserts too. (Perhaps tying a few handcuffed ISIS members to the back of wild camels and setting them off in the desert to die a slow and painful death would make a jihadist think twice. Look up the Red Devil in the American southwest)

Aussies are not a group that you want to anger. JMO.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: Ironclad2000

Don't get me wrong, I'm not disputing what you're saying.

I'd just like to read what you've read.



It's not something I read, something I was briefed on.

I really can't comment further tho, but trust me the threat is quite real.

Domestic extremists have been encouraged by sources in ISIS to try and use less sophisticated means to inflict damage. Lighting large fires and targeting government employees at major incidents was one of the things touched on.
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