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originally posted by: Mikeultra
a reply to: captaintyinknots
OK, I've found a photo that you should have no problem reading the Glass label. Remember that the glass was there in the store Friday night before the shooting as can be seen in the CNN news coverage video shown in the Youtube video. Also notice that this latest photo comes from Getty Images/Agence France Presse, which is a dead giveaway of state sponsored propaganda.
originally posted by: DelMarvel
originally posted by: Mikeultra
a reply to: captaintyinknots
OK, I've found a photo that you should have no problem reading the Glass label. Remember that the glass was there in the store Friday night before the shooting as can be seen in the CNN news coverage video shown in the Youtube video. Also notice that this latest photo comes from Getty Images/Agence France Presse, which is a dead giveaway of state sponsored propaganda.
So let me get this straight. Your allegation is that replacement glass for the window was at the location before the shooting. But organs of "state sponsored propaganda" who I assume you are implicating in the Conspiracy are distributing a photo which allegedly shows the glass there ahead of time thus revealing the plot. How could a Conspiracy that would make this glaring an error be capable of managing such a complex hoax without anyone finding out?
Anyone, that is, except the armchair Columbos who are already down in the basement gleefully making Youtube videos using MSM reports.
originally posted by: Mikeultra
No blood can be seen in this photo of the BMW, even though the "active shooter" was shot in the thigh and then allegedly shot himself in the head. Where's all the blood and brain matter?
www.gettyimages.com...
originally posted by: Moresby
Look at the famous stories of Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators during their invasion of Kuwait. Several years later this was revealed to be a complete lie, fabricated by the public relations firm of Hill and Knowlton.
originally posted by: Mikeultra
Here is a screen capture from the Youtube video that I posted to above. You can clearly read the Glass label on the brown crate. This photo may have been taken Saturday morning as the lighting appears to be daytime. But the crate was there Friday night before the "shooting".
Also the blood on the white towels should have dried to a more brownish color by Saturday morning. Also the cleanup of a bloody crime scene is more regulated than what looks to be a store employee wearing cheap latex gloves throwing it all in a simple black Hefty trash bag in a can. That's supposedly hazardous waste!
Bailey Maples was holding hands with her boyfriend: "I felt the bullet graze me and I didn't, like, bleed or anything. And then I looked at my boyfriend after we reunited and he had been wounded and covered in blood."
"You saw the shooter's face?" Nottingham asked. "Yes, I looked into his eyes."
Jacqueline Taylor was walking home after an evening out: "I saw the gun being pulled out. I saw four flashes of light that were going in one direction." She also got a close look at the gunman
Residents who live at 6701 Sabado Tarde were playing music and drinking beer in their front yard when they said they heard the shots. One of the residents, Nate Pepper, 24, said he saw Rodger’s black BMW drive 20-30 mph by his house. “It seemed like he was targeting individuals,” Pepper said. “The first guy he saw, he waited to shoot him.” The victim — described as a male, around 5‘10” with dark hair — ran toward the house and said, “I think I just got shot.” He had put up his arm to deflect the shots, Pepper said. The victim was reportedly hit three times in his left forearm and once in his left buttock.
SBCC student Derrick Poe was working at Blaze Pizza when Rodger shot someone standing outside of Isla Vista Deli. “We saw a person on the floor, and a person looking over him,” SBCC student Nina Benton, who lives on 6500 block of Sabado Tarde, also said she heard the gunshots. One bullet hit the trunk of her car. She said she was home by herself at the time and ran outside to see what was going on. She said she ducked behind a vehicle and saw Rodger speed to the end of the block.
The incident corroborates with the eyewitness account of Sierra Swartz, a Santa Barbara City College sophomore who was shot at, but not hit, during the mass murder. As she was walking down the street, coming from Del Playa, Swartz was approached by the suspect’s vehicle and shot at.
Fourth-year biology major Arun Sengupta said he heard gunshots that “sounded like firecrackers,” and shortly after he saw what appeared to be Rodger speeding down the street. “We saw him like two minutes later. I was walking down Sabado on the 6600 block when he came driving down Sabado, trying to run people over,” Sengupta said. “He was aiming for me because I was the first one in his view in the street. He missed me but hit everyone behind me .
Gurprakash Singh, a 7-11 employee working at the store that night, said he and a co-worker saw the bicyclist victim standing outside the store with a gunshot wound to her leg. As a crowd of people ran toward the store and screamed for help, Singh saw the victim crying for help. Along with his co-worker, Singh helped her into the store, giving her water and a stool to sit on, as he wrapped a towel around her leg.
“I see a guy try to flee out of the car and the cop shoots him and then runs up to the car, seriously, and runs up to the car, looks into the car and the guy tries rolling around, and the cop kind of kicked him to make sure he was down,” Niklas Svennefiord said.
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: redeyeblue
It is more scary to me reading these posts than any mentaly disturbed kid, people here see a conspiracy in every corner of their lives. With NO real evidence to back up these wild claims, they trample on the victims graves with not a shred of remorse as to the tragedy that occured. Either your all 14 year old kids with limited intelligence, or your in dire need of help yourselves.
Seconded. This is disgusting - people died but those here see a conspiracy.
originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: Psynic
Here's the huge distinction:
If it's a government conspiracy where people died by all means discuss it. You can even engage in unproven speculation. The government is fair game IMO.
However, if you are alleging heinous government conspiracy and Accusing victims of savage crimes who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time or who are merely related to people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time then you better damn well have something to back up what you're saying besides "this is a conspiracy site and we can talk about whatever made up crap we want to."
originally posted by: cestrup
a reply to: Moresby
"Can you read these witness reports? Are they acting??" Well, honestly, sure - they COULD be. I mean, who can't fake a witness?
originally posted by: Psynic
What the heck are you talking about?
Nobody has accused victims of ANYTHING!!!
Please don't cloud the issue with misleading statements such as this.
originally posted by: DEV1L79
As soon as I seen this in the newspaper I knew it is all just a mass hoax for gun control.
originally posted by: DelMarvel
originally posted by: Moresby
Look at the famous stories of Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators during their invasion of Kuwait. Several years later this was revealed to be a complete lie, fabricated by the public relations firm of Hill and Knowlton.
They were able to keep that secret for all of 6 months before a reporter from ABC figured it out. And that during a war where the media did not have access to the scene.
Wikipedia
They are nothing to you, do you know them, do you know anyone who knows them, they are just lines on paper, who can say these people exist, the news is like a central bank it all goes into one place and then networks and newspapers pick and choose the stories, it is a press release where all news get the same story.
originally posted by: DelMarvel
So are all these people below "crisis actors" with made up names? Are they real people who have somehow all been forced to tell lies? Is the media just making these stories up out of whole cloth?
Bailey Maples was holding hands with her boyfriend: "I felt the bullet graze me and I didn't, like, bleed or anything. And then I looked at my boyfriend after we reunited and he had been wounded and covered in blood."
"You saw the shooter's face?" Nottingham asked. "Yes, I looked into his eyes."
Jacqueline Taylor was walking home after an evening out: "I saw the gun being pulled out. I saw four flashes of light that were going in one direction." She also got a close look at the gunman
LINK.
Residents who live at 6701 Sabado Tarde were playing music and drinking beer in their front yard when they said they heard the shots. One of the residents, Nate Pepper, 24, said he saw Rodger’s black BMW drive 20-30 mph by his house. “It seemed like he was targeting individuals,” Pepper said. “The first guy he saw, he waited to shoot him.” The victim — described as a male, around 5‘10” with dark hair — ran toward the house and said, “I think I just got shot.” He had put up his arm to deflect the shots, Pepper said. The victim was reportedly hit three times in his left forearm and once in his left buttock.
SBCC student Derrick Poe was working at Blaze Pizza when Rodger shot someone standing outside of Isla Vista Deli. “We saw a person on the floor, and a person looking over him,” SBCC student Nina Benton, who lives on 6500 block of Sabado Tarde, also said she heard the gunshots. One bullet hit the trunk of her car. She said she was home by herself at the time and ran outside to see what was going on. She said she ducked behind a vehicle and saw Rodger speed to the end of the block.
LINK.
The incident corroborates with the eyewitness account of Sierra Swartz, a Santa Barbara City College sophomore who was shot at, but not hit, during the mass murder. As she was walking down the street, coming from Del Playa, Swartz was approached by the suspect’s vehicle and shot at.
Fourth-year biology major Arun Sengupta said he heard gunshots that “sounded like firecrackers,” and shortly after he saw what appeared to be Rodger speeding down the street. “We saw him like two minutes later. I was walking down Sabado on the 6600 block when he came driving down Sabado, trying to run people over,” Sengupta said. “He was aiming for me because I was the first one in his view in the street. He missed me but hit everyone behind me .
Gurprakash Singh, a 7-11 employee working at the store that night, said he and a co-worker saw the bicyclist victim standing outside the store with a gunshot wound to her leg. As a crowd of people ran toward the store and screamed for help, Singh saw the victim crying for help. Along with his co-worker, Singh helped her into the store, giving her water and a stool to sit on, as he wrapped a towel around her leg.
“I see a guy try to flee out of the car and the cop shoots him and then runs up to the car, seriously, and runs up to the car, looks into the car and the guy tries rolling around, and the cop kind of kicked him to make sure he was down,” Niklas Svennefiord said.
LINK.