Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

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Although I wouldn't rule out the possibility...

NK don't have much to gain by pissing off China...
Loss of Chinese civilians in such an incident purposefully or even accidental would result in immediate retaliation from China!


edition.cnn.com...
Click the UNHA-3 and you'll see just how possible though!

A few people have doubted distance NK missiles can go... According to this pretty much anywhere they want!!!

It does say unconfirmed, but then that's what Missile tests are for!!!


Peace P!

reply to post by DominusXV


If I am not mistaken, the EMP theory was that they would hijack the aircraft, land, then put on a weapon and fly it for an EMP mission.

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The UNHA-3 is supposedly capable of such a distance...
Unconfirmed so far... But as I said to Pax it's what Missile tests are for!!!

edition.cnn.com...
Click the different Missiles and see their range, given with estimated range in km* & an orange radius!!!
If it is possible to reach the West Coast of the US I doubt anywhere in Asia is a problem!


Peace!

CharlieSpeirs
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The UNHA-3 is supposedly capable of such a distance...
Unconfirmed so far... But as I said to Pax it's what Missile tests are for!!!

edition.cnn.com...
Click the different Missiles and see their range, given with estimated range in MK & an orange radius!!!
If it is possible to reach the West Coast of the US I doubt anywhere in Asia is a problem!


Peace!

Even the Musudan hasn't been publicly tested and as far as I know the taepodong missiles are used for satellite delivery.

I'm not saying its an impossible theory, just HIGHLY unlikely.

Really cool link though. Thanks for that!

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I understand that the range for the missiles are possible, but again, they are ICBMs, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. They would be used to deliver nukes, not take out airplanes from the sky. Plus, if North Korea fired a missile in that direction, the U.S., China, South Korea and Japan would all know it.

North Korea would never do that to their "Big Brother" state, China is the only country that is still on relatively good terms with N.Korea. They have no reason to take out MH370.

North Korea is not a plausible culprit.

DominusXV
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I understand that the range for the missiles are possible, but again, they are ICBMs, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. They would be used to deliver nukes, not take out airplanes from the sky. Plus, if North Korea fired a missile in that direction, the U.S., China, South Korea and Japan would all know it.

North Korea would never do that to their "Big Brother" state, China is the only country that is still on relatively good terms with N.Korea. They have no reason to take out MH370.

North Korea is not a plausible culprit.

Not only that but SURELY NK would have claimed it by now if they were indeed responsible.

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I'm gonna agree with you completely here I reckon Seek...

The likelihood against the possibility favours something completely different!!!

It'd be suicidal for NK to ever do something like this... I don't think Mr.Kim Un is that unpredictable despite his persona!

Thanks I thought so to... just a shame it didn't have the European side to judge!


Peace SK!

Strange Disappearances: Here One Minute, Gone The Next
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I recall an episode of The Twilight Zone where a little girl tumbles out of bed and falls through a portal into another dimension that had opened up in the wall of her bedroom. Her rescuer reached through and pulled her back. Of course, that is fiction. Or is it? Legend is full of stories just like this where people are here one minute and gone the next, never to be seen or heard of again.

In recent history, science has provided enough evidence of space holes and other dimensions that this Twilight Zone scenario is much more believable. We pretty well accept that a worm hole can lead to either another time or place in the galaxy. Why is it, though, that mankind has suspected this was true even before anyone knew about the science behind it? Probably because history is laced with strange disappearances.

Keep in mind that the following information may or may not be authenticated and all fall into the category of Legend.

Take the case of the Eskimo Village, for example, where the entire population of over 2000 vanished in 1930. A tracker who had been camping in the wilderness returned home to find everyone was gone. The village was still there as if the people could have returned at any moment. Cooking pots simmered on the stoves and rifles and kayaks remained where they always were. Would the whole community have walked away? And why? But there were no tracks leading away from the village and none of the missing tribe could be located anywhere. Only two mysterious clues remained. All the sled dogs were found buried deep in a snow drift in the area. They had all starved to death. Also the graves of the tribe's ancestors had been opened (which would have been extremely difficult with the ground frozen in ice) and the bodies had been removed.

In Bennington, Vermont, during the period of 1920 and 1950, several unexplained disappearances took place. A Mr. Tetford, who lived in the Soldier's Home in Bennington, disappeared from inside a bus where he was sitting with 14 other passengers. They all had seen him sleeping in his seat, but when the bus arrived, Mr. Tetford was nowhere to be found. All his belongings remained as they were, including his bus timetable lying open on the adjoining seat.

Other Bennington disappearances included an 18-year-old student who vanished off a trail in Glastenbury Mountain and an 8-year-old who went missing suddenly off his parent's farm. Neither were ever found.

Dozens of disappearances like these around Bennington caused the area to become known as the Bennington Triangle. Native Americans in the 18th and 19th centuries, believed this Glastenbury wilderness to be a haunt of evil spirits, and they only used it for a burial ground. According to their legend, this spot was a place where all four winds met and an enchanted stone would swallow anything that passed by. But the strange disappearances in this so-called Bennington Triangle have ceased since the last one in 1950.

One of the most well-known disappearances in history is the case of David Lang. On September 23, 1880, David was walking in a field near his home in Sumner County, Tennessee. He was in full view of his wife and two children. His brother-in-law and a local attorney were approaching nearby in a horse-drawn buggy. Suddenly, David Lang vanished before their very eyes. It was said that a circle marked the spot where he vanished. Nothing would ever grow there and animals and insects avoided going into it. It was also reported that his children claimed to hear their father's voice once when they ventured into the center of the circle.

Another disappearance on the order of David Lang's was reported in "The Difficulty of Crossing a Field" written by Ambrose Bierce in 1909. This disappearance occurred in July, 1854, involving Orion Williamson who vanished, like David, while walking across a field.

Quite the reverse of disappearing from our realm is the story of the Green Children of Woolpit who are said to have appeared from somewhere else. Sometime between 1135 A.D. and 1154 A.D., two children were found near a pit at Woolpit, England. Huddled together, the boy and girl were terrified and screamed in an unknown language. Their clothing was made of an unknown material and the children's skin was green. They were taken to the home of Richard de Calne where by trial and error, it was found the only thing they would eat were fresh bean pods which they ate exclusively for quite sometime. However, the boy died soon after they were found. The girl thrived and lost the green hue in her skin when she started eating the local food. She learned English and finally was able to say where she and the boy had come from. She described a land with no sun where the people were all green and lived in perpetual twilight. The two children had heard bells, then found themselves in the pit and emerged into the light of our world. The girl lived long and eventually married, but was never able to explain her origins.

Two accounts of the Green Children of Woolpit were written around 1200 A.D., nearly 60 years after the time it is said to have happened. The names of these writings are 'Historia Rerum Anglicarum' by William of Newburgh, and 'Chronicon Aglicanum' by Ralph of Coggeshall Abbey. These were not eyewitness accounts of the green children but merely included in these collections of stories the authors had heard.

Of course, I cannot fail to mention the most notorious place of disappearances and that is the Bermuda Triangle, an area of 750,000 square miles in a triangle shape from Florida to Bermuda to Puerto Rico and back to Florida. It is said that the first report of a strange occurrence in that place was recorded by Christopher Columbus in 1492. He saw a ball of fire fall into the sea, then his compass did not work properly. Over 50 ships and 20 airplanes have been known to disappear there.

One reference found in the Bible, Acts 8:39-40, could fall into the category of a strange disappearance. Philip may have disappeared from the sight of the eunuch he had just baptized. Then he reappeared at the city of Azotus.

Strange disappearances and appearances are found throughout historical records. Are they based in fact or fiction? Urban legend? Hard to say, but at least the freight train that may be running through your living room in another dimension does not keep you awake.

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That makes a lot of sense, thanks!
I had a feeling it wouldn't be possible to evade the watchful eyes that monitor NK's activity in this area... Unless cloaking tech is available, but even them I doubt they'd start with China!

I agree, it'd be the dumbest move anybody could make I think!


Peace Dom!

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I don't think the vile, paranoid Jung Un cares whom he pissess off! He is a raving lunatic! I would not put it passed him!

Again, this was just my theory put together with the near miss of a China Jetliner a week earlier made me start to think this is not just a coincidence. Also, the jet took off from Japan so how do we know it wasnt full of international travelers and not just the Chinese..

Engine performance data may / may not have been sent after the said stoppage of transmissions?

Either there is data or not. I just find the uncertainty of the statements either way odd.

Not saying it is not possible for NK.
Even if it is suicidal for Un to do so..

It does not make sense to me given that....the U.S. would jump at the chance so fast to go in and start bombing NK. And the the U.S. has not begun such a campaign yet.
Time will tell if ever.


Plus think back to when NK launched the satellite....we were able to track it.

roadgravel
Engine performance data may / may not have been sent after the said stoppage of transmissions?

Either there is data or not. I just find the uncertainty of the statements either way odd.

Their version of PsyOps

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Some fantastic stories right there Purple!!!

& I think it would be all too easy to label all of them Urban Legends...
I just wonder how many historical stories there are lost during the scripture/book burning eras!!!

Really does scream "possibility"... & one of the scariest theories so far IMO!!!


As for the Freight Train in the room...
Is this common knowledge?...
Because it's the first I've heard of it outside of my own experience...
I don't want to drift too far off topic but I hear & see things (Undifferentiated Schizophrenia) and this I relate to, up to now I considered it a Ghost Train!!!

Peace P!

Wonder what this new information is?

US investigators are “pursuing possible leads” in the search for MH370, White House spokesman Jay Carney said in the briefing in which he confirmed a “new search area” had been opened in the Indian Ocean. Reuters quotes Carney: There are a number of possible scenarios that are being investigated as to what happened to the flight. And we are not in a position at this time to make conclusions about what happened, unfortunately. But we’re actively participating in the search,” Carney told a regular news briefing. “We’re looking at information, pursuing possible leads, working within the investigation being led by the Malaysian government.” Carney did not specify the nature of the “new information.”

Link

The US reviewed satellite images and didn't find any indication of an explosion:

No evidence of explosion

I'm still leaning towards hijacking...

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Rolls royce record the engine data, they declined to comment to the media on whether there was data after the 'disappearance' or not, it doesn't mean they haven't shared the info with investigators.

As a private company they are naturally being careful about what they say in public at this stage.

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What's frustrating is that the longer it takes to find them the less chance if any of survival of crew whether hijacking or crash. ..



Also no one followed up confirming the area the supposedly had life jackets and the man with the life jackets? ?? That clue seemed to stop.

qd22vcc
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What's frustrating is that the longer it takes to find them the less chance if any of survival of crew whether hijacking or crash. ..



Also no one followed up confirming the area the supposedly had life jackets and the man with the life jackets? ?? That clue seemed to stop.

It was confirmed that that guy was a victim of a maritime incident.

the emergency signal did not go off...

sorry if this has been posted, a correction by the Wall Street Journal re. Engine data and the extra 4 hours.

The Wall Street Journal has issued a correction to its report early Thursday that MH370 flew for hours after losing contact with ground control based on signals from systems in the plane’s Roll-Royce engines. The theory that the plane flew for hours is based on a signal coming from a different system inside the plane – a satellite-communication link – and not the Rolls-Royce engines, the Journal now reports.

Here’s the correction: Corrections & Amplifications U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 flew for hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, based on an analysis of signals sent through the plane’s satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of some onboard systems, according to people familiar with the matter. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said investigators based their suspicions on signals from monitoring systems embedded in the plane’s Rolls-Royce PLC engines and described that process.

www.theguardian.com...