Are you a psychological rapist?

reply to post by Maverick7

Strange and ineffectual behavior, but maybe it makes you feel safe. Have you ever had to hit someone with your purse - in four years? If not you might be suffering a delusion. If really afraid, get a carry permit and be armed. Wear sap gloves, at least. Sorry to hear you're this scared.

Not sure why it would be either strange or ineffectual. I don't carry a purse, just a knapsack with my sketch pads and pencils in it. It's soft leather, and the quarters weigh down the bottom. It has a very long strap which can be used to swing it from a pretty good distance away, and four rolls of quarters is just enough weight to drop someone so you have a chance to run away. I come from a family of military and law enforcement guys...I've got all kinds of interesting tricks up my sleeve. The quarters aren't visible, so no one can see that you have anything resembling a weapon, they are heavy enough to knock someone unconscious and you don't have to get close to them to do it, and no one expects a squishy leather knapsack to be used as a weapon. All of these things are advantages.

It was not 4 years, by the way...i said I've carried quarters like that "for years". And yes, I have hit someone with my bag...and it was most definitely not ineffectual. And the person attacking me never saw it coming. Of course, the success of using it requires that you are able to keep the person at enough of a distance to actually swing it...but it works.

I'm not sure where you got the impression that I walk around afraid...I actually don't feel afraid unless someone startles me, but I think a couple of other women on here mentioned feeling afraid due to past experiences that were violent and traumatizing. Mostly, for me anyway, it's more of an annoyance issue...but sometimes I get one who is bold enough that I wouldn't feel safe being left alone with, and I trust my instincts. If someone gives me a bad feeling, I pay attention.

I would not want to carry a firearm while walking because out in the open like that, it would be easy to get overpowered and have it taken from you and most likely used on you. And I would of course be afraid that a bystander could get hurt...just not a good idea for me when I'm walking around.

reply to post by yourignoranceisbliss

Yeah, the glaring problem with your assumed concept of what you believe 'should' be considered "common decency" relies entirely upon the admission that Women are the weaker sex. Or do you simply (claim) to carry around four rolls of quarters because you like pinball?

My "assumed concept" of what common decency is? Really? Anyone who has made it through their first five years of life knows at least rudimentary manners, so please save your silly attempts at belittlement for someone else. Unless your goal was to provide comic relief, in which case you excelled quite remarkably and thank you for the laugh.

And I am pretty sure that I have not been saying anything remotely resembling an assertion that men are not stronger than women. In fact, I have stated the exact opposite. I do not "simply (claim)" to carry the rolls. I "simply (do)" carry them. And maybe you missed the part where I said why I carry them. Probably a good idea to double-check before making silly accusations about people that you have your facts straight to avoid making yourself look any more ignorant than you already do. Just a suggestion for ya there, Sparky.

Now before you begin on an emotionally driven tirade about how I must be some ___, ____, ____ Misogynist,

Now who is entertaining an "assumed concept"? You don't know the first thing about what does and does not drive me, emotionally or otherwise, so go kick rocks with that irritating melodramatic drivel. And thanks for that laugh too...it appears that you are on a roll with these zingers of yours, yeah?

You aren't entitled to anything in life. Men know this and struggle with it their entire lives. It's the reason we typically have to strive so hard in order to attract and keep a mate. You may truly believe you're entitled to fair treatment, your sex being negligible, but you're being indulged precisely *because* you're a Woman

Anyone with a handful of functioning brain cells can figure out that no one is entitled to anything in life. And what could possibly have led you to believe that I think anyone is or should be? Are people "entitled" to respect? No, they are not. It is earned. And the best way to earn respect is to treat others respectfully. Which is also known as "common courtesy". Or "manners".

Your inability to handle reality, and how you lash out at Men who clearly have nothing to do with your un-diagnosed paranoia, tells me that you refuse to accept your role in life. That's perfectly fine though! You ARE entitled to spend the rest of your life alone and miserable, cursing Men for being so damn evil and conspiring against you. I'm sure your multitude of cats will be very interested in your conspiracy theories about the patriarchy out to get you. Your freedom to be an angry, bitter spinster, was made possible by a bunch of old conspiring Men! Doesn't that just twist your underpants?

What are you babbling about here? It would stand to reason that, judging by yourapparent inability to string a coherent sentence together, that it is you who could use the benefit of a little sprinkle from the reality fairy...and a really good editor.

Please, tell me how i have " lashed out" at men. Please tell me why you are attempting to mock my mental state by insinuating that I suffer from an undiagnosed psychiatric disorder which you inexplicably crammed into an unintelligible, babbling, incoherent rant that sounds like it was composed by an escaped mental patient. Does irony just not exist in your world or something? Speaking of irony, why would you think it a good idea to inquire about anyone's "underpants" while attempting to flame them with wild accusations about your disbelief of their statements' validity on a thread in which the topic of discussion is SEXUAL HARASSMENT? You're accomplishing two things by doing that. 1) Even though I would have sworn it wasn't possible, you are actually making yourself look even more silly than you previously did, and 2) You not only questioned a woman whom you are attempting to call out and thus demoralize and subvert by attacking her character on a thread discussing sexual predation, of all things, about the state of her lingerie...because that would have just been too tame and you are obviously an overachiever. No, all that wasn't enough. You had to go and kick it up a notch. You said "underpants". You really did. Got a screenshot too, in case you decide to go back and replace it with something more manly and grown up...like "undies". That made me LOL in real life, it really did.

Please, enlighten us all as to what our "role in life" is. I'm sure we're all waiting to hear your thoughts on that.

Please, tell me...when did I say anything about men being "evil" or engaging in some mysterious "man conspiracy"? Oh, that's right...I didn't. You just made that up to flesh out the rest of your fictional work in progress.

Please leave my cats out of this, thank you very much.

Sorry to crash on your diatribe about how I'm going to be a "spinster", and not just any spinster either, but a bitter one...but I have been married for quite some time and have no plans to be otherwise. You get a "C+" for creativity though...would have been higher if your limited imagination could have made it past the Dark Ages, but hey...you're the one who set the bar all low right from the start, so obviously you're happy staying in the mediocre side of life. Seems to suit you.

American Feminism has EVERYTHING to do with this problem. It's why you've been brainwashed into thinking you're *entitled* to safety and a life of never being treated how Women have been since the dawn of Mankind. No one here is saying it's justified because of the undeniable differences between Men and Women, but you're clearly suffering from the delusion that any Western 1st world nation, by virtue of being a top-tier "civilized" nation in respect to everywhere else, guarantees you a life free from whatever makes you feel uncomfortable, *just* because you're a Woman.

Once again, you are showcasing your ignorance by punctuating it with stereotypes and wild assumptions based on absolutely nothing but what you cooked up in your narrow little mind. I grew up in the Middle East, so get out of here with that nonsensical assumptive crap about my world view. You don't know me and have absolutely zero idea how I feel about anything, especially my feelings on Western culture and what kind of life it may or may not "guarantee". I was not taught values, ethics, manners or simple common courtesy in any Western classroom, so your pathetic attempt to link that to your other wild assumptions about me was yet another fail. Nice try, though.

Men and Women ARE different. Men typically are stronger than Women. You cannot refute this, and as such, you are forced to accept that you live a world where you will never truly be free from danger.

Are you impaired? I am fully aware that men are typically more physically strong than women. In fact, i pointed that out in my first post on this thread. I have done the complete polar opposite of refuting the statement that men are stronger...I have supported that as a factual state of being. Next time you feel like launching an attack on someone for the whole world to witness, you may want to try making sure you have your story straight. It's far more effective if you are in fact interested in not coming across as a babbling, incoherent, moronic bully. Have a lovely day

reply to post by boncho


No, but I'm a victim of being psychologically raped by my girlfriend on a consistent basis......

I don't like the stories definition of psychological rape.. cause I have a whole different view point of the term, which is similar to "mind effffing", where someone knows how to sneak into your mind like some ninja before using their samurai sword of words on your brain

Psychological rape sounds like something right out of the Feminism 101 handbook that they hand out to mentally ill creatures and other assorted undesirable uglies, fatties and lesbos.

doubletap
Psychological rape sounds like something right out of the Feminism 101 handbook that they hand out to mentally ill creatures and other assorted undesirable uglies, fatties and lesbos.

Well...i am pretty close to the top of the local food chain. And I prefer the "fatties".

You might want to avoid insulting large segments of our forum. Just because you find feminism to be disgusting doesn't mean we deride all women.

Not many people are disputing that the behaviours outlined in the OP are undesirable/inappropriate to some degree, but associating them with the word "rape" is a problem.

In Feminism's attempt to continually broaden the definition of "rape" from it's traditional meaning, Feminists are ensuring the prosecution and conviction of innocent individuals. They are also instilling irrational fears and prejudices in women against men.

reply to post by Dark Ghost

Not many people are disputing that the behaviours outlined in the OP are undesirable/inappropriate to some degree, but associating them with the word "rape" is a problem.

I think that it's entirely possible that the article could have been just meant to sensationalize and get people to show interest in their college as well...either the link is broken or they had so much backlash they took the article down but it is not there anymore. Basically, since every link I clicked on while attempting to find another source directed me right back to the non-existent page. In which case I am thinking it very likely that the OP was just one of those little guys who live under foot bridges and charge a toll, seeing how much attention this would garner.

Of course if it does prove to be legit, they will have to find different terminology before they start a war...that one word is what is changing the dynamic here. It is harassment, and shouldn't be called anything but harassment. Doesn't mean it should be tolerated, but a felony sex crime? Not so much...that's just one of the main things wrong with the whole affair in the first place.

Dark Ghost
Not many people are disputing that the behaviours outlined in the OP are undesirable/inappropriate to some degree, but associating them with the word "rape" is a problem.

In Feminism's attempt to continually broaden the definition of "rape" from it's traditional meaning, Feminists are ensuring the prosecution and conviction of innocent individuals. They are also instilling irrational fears and prejudices in women against men.

The original article's title was "What Men Can Do To Stop Rape" and the psychological rape (discrimatory?) issue was just one of many points (most of which I found nondiscriminatory, even if this one point may be - so let's throw out the baby with the bath water); why you and some others here have fixated on this one point and gone off the main message shows an agenda. Also, how do you know this article was written in a feministic vein rather than a religious one?

Part of the original article on the college website (now taken off due to letters claiming discrimination):

www.avoiceformalestudents.com...

"Don’t allow psychological rape or commit it yourself. Psychological rape consists of verbal harassment, whistles, kissing noises, heavy breathing, sly comments or stares. These are all assaults on any woman’s sense of well-being. The underlying intention is to intimidate the woman. They are power plays couched in the language of sex."

It appears to me that the above-mentioned certain behaviours fall into the category of sexual coersion, so perhaps the writers of the article (who are they?) should consider changing the term of 'psychological rape' to 'psychological sexual coersion' - for the purpose of manipulating an individual into intimidation and compliance for their own sexual gratification.

Article on sexual violence on campuses and male perpetrators problematic attitudes on this subject:

cfsontario.ca...

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

You are both smart and tough. Good traits. When I was younger i would stop and help folks broken down on the side of the road. I helped more than 1 elderly person change a flat in my day. I stopped doing that after a few incidents where I would pull up and have someone locked in their car, looking at me terrified. A jumpy, scared person with a gun, sitting in their car.....i didn't want to end up shot. So have just quit stopping for folks on the side of the road.

Why thank you...I can say the same about you as well It's sad that we have all come to such a place in life where everywhere we go, every second, no matter what, there is always something that is trying to get you...everything is televised, computerized and publicized to the point where nothing is left to imagination anymore. Nothing is private or sacred. We don't have to imagine anything bad happening...we see it on live newsfeeds at the touch of a button. The fear of what we know can and will happen far outweighs anything our minds can conjure up.

I can remember my mom picking up hitchhikers when I was little. She wouldn't give a stranger a ride these days even if they paid her money. We didn't even have to lock our doors. And that really wasn't all that far in the past either. I really fear for us as a species because if something so small as an article from a relatively obscure college newsletter could cause this much conflict, what the hell is going to happen when something really detrimental occurs? The nastiness, finger pointing, ridiculous accusations, hatred and contempt that ensued on this thread over a silly article is not a very good indicator that we would be able to pull together if the need arose in a crisis.

reply to post by tigertatzen


And that is why i have bought guns chambered in a wide variety of flavors. I want to have a choice of ammo, should anything turn really ugly.

Do i ever plan on using a gun on a human? Nope. The thought horrifies me What horrifies me more is seeing the way people interact online, and seeing the condition of the nation as it stands today.

reply to post by tigertatzen


I too must respond to the women reading erotica vs pornography; no difference(?). For one, erotica involves two consenting adults in a whirlwind passionately romantic, sexual and caring complex relationship whereas pornography involves one, two or more people, who usually can't stand each other, performing their jobs for money.

InTheLight
reply to post by tigertatzen

 

I too must respond to the women reading erotica vs pornography; no difference(?). For one, erotica involves two consenting adults in a whirlwind passionately romantic, sexual and caring complex relationship whereas pornography involves one, two or more people, who usually can't stand each other, performing their jobs for money.

edit on 6-3-2014 by InTheLight because: (no reason given)

No, erotica is porn for women. It is geared towards what a woman wants. When my wife has been reading her "romance novels" on her nook, it has the same effect on her libido as if i watch nekkie ladies.

You can't just arbitrarily create a "test" using subjective notions of what is and isn't moral/trashy. Hearing the stuff in erotica is, to me, a cause for some heavy eye rolling and a few utterances of "Oh jeez...."

Now this isn't really for ATS....but with a minimal amount of searching you can find regular couples who like to publish their own encounters. They don't get paid, and they are married to each other. No, it ain't my thing. But there are countless flavors of people in the world....one persons pleasure is anothers perversion.

Just to try to add some perspective to your statement.

Any Feminist wanna take a stab at the picture below?



edit: right-click > view img If too small.

reply to post by luciddream


i would say it's designed by someone with a grudge who doesn't understand the bigger picture. :\

Seriously Sexist and Overprotective Paranoia

Textreply to post by RomeByFire


As I sat reading the material discussed in the name of "Psychological Rape" I began to realize the effect of overprotecting children and possibly the very reason the institution of marriage has become as short term as a good percentage of American students college educations. I believe insecurities and character flaw are within all of us and it is merely human nature to expose them exploit them and to be defensive or overreact when our weakness or flaw is exposed. So, come on people, seriously. If you are going to title this subject using the term "Psychological Rapist" you might want to seek more education about the subject or just spend more time being human. If we were all so uptight and pretentious there would likely be a lot lower global population. It is the same for all countries because people are people no matter where they are. GET OVER IT!!!

reply to post by taoistguy


Ah right, lets brush it off cause it common occurrence.

bigfatfurrytexan

InTheLight
reply to post by tigertatzen

 

I too must respond to the women reading erotica vs pornography; no difference(?). For one, erotica involves two consenting adults in a whirlwind passionately romantic, sexual and caring complex relationship whereas pornography involves one, two or more people, who usually can't stand each other, performing their jobs for money.

edit on 6-3-2014 by InTheLight because: (no reason given)

No, erotica is porn for women. It is geared towards what a woman wants. When my wife has been reading her "romance novels" on her nook, it has the same effect on her libido as if i watch nekkie ladies.

You can't just arbitrarily create a "test" using subjective notions of what is and isn't moral/trashy. Hearing the stuff in erotica is, to me, a cause for some heavy eye rolling and a few utterances of "Oh jeez...."

Now this isn't really for ATS....but with a minimal amount of searching you can find regular couples who like to publish their own encounters. They don't get paid, and they are married to each other. No, it ain't my thing. But there are countless flavors of people in the world....one persons pleasure is anothers perversion.

Just to try to add some perspective to your statement.

You obviously missed my perspective and other women's perspectives with whom I have discussed this topic with in the past. What's missing is the key to understanding women's emotional and sexual needs in the bedroom and out of the bedroom, for that matter.

Erotica seems to me to lean more towards a self-help and/or a more sexually freeing avenue for women dealing with decades (and centuries) of sexual repression and/or dysfunction. In using one's imagination in reading erotica, I believe a woman may lean more towards (fun) sexual tension, and complex interaction/dialogue, and emotional and sexual bonding combined with only the one man she is interested in and he her, rather than the cold, stark pornographic images and acts performed on one or all strangers; ask your wife if this is not true.

In real life (my and other women's experiences that I have asked), women get very turned on by watching their men cook, feed and care for their baby and children (in a nutshell being a caring, loving and present emotional and sexual partner in their lives), rather that the thought of the act itself; ask your wife if this is not true.

In viewing the few pornographic images presented to me, I find it evokes laughter due to it's ridiculousness, poor story line, bad and/or no acting abilities, lack of interesting dialogue, lack of emotional connection, and me wondering how much they get paid for each move, or how many takes did that act take (laugh).

reply to post by luciddream


well, in th case of women in mn's toilets, the number of women caught\arrested for doing so and sexually molesting and raping men and children is practically nil compared to the men who go into women's toilets an commit those crimes.

reply to post by luciddream


I am sure any one of us could waste time with counter images but that is not what this thread is about. What are your thoughts on rape prevention for either gender and/or redefining discriminatory terms that serve to create division among the sexes?