Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

Ultimately where does this put Russia. Certainly not in a good standing with any major country. Ukraine is surely gonna go to EU now. Lol Russia is screwed after all this noise comes down. Wonder what Putin was thinking.

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FM Lavrov addresses Russian MPs on Ukraine

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Foxtrot7x
Wonder what Putin was thinking.

Probably not much beyond, "We got the gas. We are world's number 1 energy producer. Bow down and lick our boots, imperialist running dogs."

Hellas
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FM Lavrov addresses Russian MPs on Ukraine

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edit on 20-3-2014 by Hellas because: (no reason given)

Do you have any kind of summary you might be able to add as to what he may have said?
TIA.

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I was watching for 10 min. but they didn't translate it unfortunately.

Now there is rhetoric on Estonia and Moldova. Putin isn't wasting time building the old republic!

Moldova

Estonia

Russia's State Duma approves treaty to make Crimea part of Russia

Russia’s State Duma has ratified the Treaty for the Accession of Crimea and city of Sevastopol to the Russian Federation with 445 deputies voting for it. The vote came two days after the treaty was signed in the Kremlin by President Putin and Crimea officials on March 18.

RT

Thought you guys might find this interesting it appears the elections in Crimea were rigged. Im not really surprised but when they looked at the totals there was more votes to Join russia than they have people in Crimea. It shows that the referendum passed with 123 percent of the vote. And we though putin was good at Rigging elections Crimea has him beat. By the way this doesnt include people not eligible to vote like children or refused tovote like the tatars. So imagine there population must have grown alot in 4 months must be all those people running around in masks.

www.pravda.com.ua...

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Actually, that has been debunked here.

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Well, that's what the Ukraine says. Judging by the Crimean people though, it seems all is fine. And that's what counts right?

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Just the latest obvious sham by the Russians in this debacle. Just icing on the cake when you consider the fake, vanishing letters from the former President and the apparent forced expulsions of Russians from Ukraine with shots of the Polish border...

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Seeing as only the pro-Russian lot even took part in the vote, the result is questionable, ignoring the fact it was rushed through and the questions themselves were rigged - there was no option to maintain the status quo, which is quite an important "oversight"...

The Ukrainian and Tartar populations boycotted it and they make up just over 40% of the population, but as long as the Russian colonists got what they want, that's what counts, right?

dragonridr
Thought you guys might find this interesting it appears the elections in Crimea were rigged. Im not really surprised but when they looked at the totals there was more votes to Join russia than they have people in Crimea. It shows that the referendum passed with 123 percent of the vote. And we though putin was good at Rigging elections Crimea has him beat. By the way this doesnt include people not eligible to vote like children or refused tovote like the tatars. So imagine there population must have grown alot in 4 months must be all those people running around in masks.

www.pravda.com.ua...

No they didn't, the blogger added 200,000 to the total actually announced.

Here's the actual total.

www.ntv.ru...



The blogger uses 1,724,563 when the actual figure was 1, 524,563.

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The Ukrainian and Tartar populations boycotted it and they make up just over 40% of the population, but as long as the Russian colonists got what they want, that's what counts, right?

Well who's fault is that? Boycotting your future? Serves them right, then. That's what voting is all about.

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Their view was that the vote was illegal, so by voting in it, you give it credibility.

stumason
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Their view was that the vote was illegal, so by voting in it, you give it credibility.

I hear ya, but this is what the people of Crimea wanted to do. This is democracy. They vote when they feel the need to. It's up to everybody to be part of the change. By boycotting it, they just dig their own grave. Crying afterwards just puts them from being uninvolved, to ridiculous.

Hellas
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Well, that's what the Ukraine says. Judging by the Crimean people though, it seems all is fine. And that's what counts right?

Is it 123 percent of the entire population of Crimea voted to leave Ukraine not counting people who didnt vote or ineligible. This means the vote numbers are fake the people didnt decide to leave Ukraine. But as we know it was a forgone conclusion before the vote even started they were making arrangements. This is just Russia blatantly stealing land from Ukraine and they cant even keep the lies straight anymore its so sad.

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Some post above is a link. The numbers are not fake.

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There is nothing democratic about it when the vote is organised within the space of a week under the watchful eye of 30+ thousand Russian soldiers who have just streamed over the border.

I have no issue if the Crimean's genuinely wanted this, but it should have been done in a proper time scale, under proper international monitoring (considering it's inflammatory nature) and without the intimidating presence of Russian combat forces, not because Russia had their man in Kiev ousted by the elected Parliament of Ukraine.

dragonridr

Hellas
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Well, that's what the Ukraine says. Judging by the Crimean people though, it seems all is fine. And that's what counts right?

Is it 123 percent of the entire population of Crimea voted to leave Ukraine not counting people who didnt vote or ineligible. This means the vote numbers are fake the people didnt decide to leave Ukraine. But as we know it was a forgone conclusion before the vote even started they were making arrangements. This is just Russia blatantly stealing land from Ukraine and they cant even keep the lies straight anymore its so sad.

Sure, go Israel!

Cuz when Israel doz it it's cool and stuff, just freedom working its magic, when Crimean Russians actually VOTE and win, it's all fake and stuff cuz like blatant stealing of Ukraine who's president is a US puppet.

Go USA! Who cares about anything, as long as USA is the best.

Yeahh!!! Beeer!