Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

Feltrick
Interesting developments over the past few days. Seemed at first the "revolution" won and now only a few days later, Russian troops are in the Crimea. For some reason, I can't stop thinking about Hitler "coming to the aid" of ethnic Germans in the Sudetenland prior to all out war. I guess, history does repeat itself.

Yeah, well, seeing the political groups who took over the government, from the Right Sector to Svoboda to UDAR, it pretty much looks like a fascist coup by the book, supported by Germany.

Have a look here, it's very revealing, and the course is undisputably legit:

From llast December:

Our Man in Kiev 2013/12/10 KIEV/BERLIN (Own report) - According to press reports, the German government would like to have boxing champion Vitali Klitschko run for president and bring him to power in the Ukraine. It would like to enhance the popularity of the opposition's politician by staging, for example, joint public appearances with the German foreign minister. For this purpose, a meeting is also planned for Klitschko with Chancellor Merkel at the next EU summit in mid-December. The Konrad Adenauer Foundation is, in fact, not only massively supporting Klitschko and his UDAR party. According to a CDU politician, the UDAR Party was founded in 2010 on the direct orders of the CDU foundation. Reports on the foundation's activities for the development of Klitschko's party give an indication of how Germans are influencing the Ukraine's domestic affairs via UDAR. Berlin's use of Poland in its policy toward the Ukraine is also increasing. Berlin and Warsaw are cooperating with the Ukrainian ultra right-wing Svoboda ("Liberty") party, which stands in the tradition of Nazi collaborators, who massacred 100,000 Christian and Jewish Poles during WW II. On Behalf of the Adenauer Foundation Vitali Klitschko - the man, who, if the German government has its way, should conquer the power in Kiev and lead his country into the German-European hegemonic sphere - is not only a political ally, but - in his current role - even a product of Berlin's foreign policy. As the CDU politician, Werner Jostmeier, reported about two years ago, Klitschko had been "instructed by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation" to establish "a Christian conservative party in the Ukraine."[1] UDAR ("Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reforms") was founded on April 24, 2010 and the CDU affiliated Konrad Adenauer Foundation's assistance for its development began immediately. Klitschko, spoke of his three day visit to Berlin in January 2011, remarking that the talks were "of great help" to the party's development: "We had many questions and found the answers" in Berlin. The foundation organized another working visit in Thuringia that fall, offering the boxing champion instructions on the implementation of local policies. Following supplementary assistance, Klitschko "explicitly" thanked the Adenauer Foundation and the CDU for their help in setting up the party.[2] Ways of Influencing The Konrad Adenauer Foundation's support for UDAR continues. Last June, it gave the UDAR party youth hints on "increasing their membership" and on electoral strategies. Four weeks ago, it organized a seminar on the EU Association Agreement, which clearly demonstrates how, at a lower level, the German government is using UDAR as an instrument for gaining influence in the Ukraine's political development. According to a report, the foundation "informed" young activists at the seminar, who, as "multipliers," should be spreading "the knowledge they had been receiving" from the German organization. At the same time, they were given the opportunity to "expand their political networks."[3] In late November, an UDAR delegation visited Germany, to inform itself on the means and methods of parliamentary work. The CDU organization explained that "advising the party also on its work as a parliamentary group," is "an important concern of the Adenauer Foundation." After all "relevant laws concerning the country's integration into the EU" must be introduced in the Verkhovna Rada by the end of the year.[4] It is in Germany's interest that the Ukrainian system of norms can successfully be adapted to the German-European system ("EU integration"). The Foreign Ministry's Candidate Berlin's government authorities have been promoting contacts with Vitali Klitschko from the very beginning. In the prelude to Klitschko's early 2011 working visit to Berlin, the Adenauer Foundation had already announced that the world champion boxer would meet with "high ranking officials of the Chancellery and Foreign Ministry."[5] Since then Klitschko has even been meeting the German Foreign Minister on a regular basis. The foreign ministry has documented such official encounters, usually also with photos, in November 2012, June 2013 and October 2013. Last week Guido Westerwelle appeared in public with Kiev's opposition politician. Recent media reports show that these meetings not only serve for coordinating political maneuvers - bypassing the Ukraine's elected government - but also for public relations. The German chancellor would like to position Vitali Klitschko "as the leader of the opposition and rival candidate to incumbent President Viktor Yanukovych" and strengthen his standing "with joint public appearances." This is why the UDAR chairman should appear at the next EU summit meeting on December 19 and 20 and have highly publicized "consultations with Chancellor Merkel."[6] According to a report, the Adenauer Foundation's man in Kiev needs additional tutoring. He "still lacks rhetorical agility and political experience for waging a presidential electoral campaign." Anti-Trade Union Violence In addition to Berlins efforts to groom Vlitali Klitschko into a presidential candidate and eventually get him elected as Kiev's ruler, leading German politicians are also continuing their coordination with the extreme rightwing Svoboda Party. While, during his visit to Kiev last week, Germany's Foreign Minister Westerwelle was avoiding being photographed near the leader of the Svoboda Party, Oleh Tjahnybok to allude PR problems, Helga Schmid, the German assistant to the EU's High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton, was busy negotiating with the head of that extremist rightwing party.[7] The fact that its followers have become violent, will not dampen the German-EU cooperation with Svoboda. Over the weekend, Svoboda followers destroyed a statue of Lenin and threw smoke bombs. It is now being reported that they have even assaulted members of the left. According to reports, "Svoboda followers, in plain view of one or their parliamentarians, recently demolished the tent of the independent trade union federation, wounding its activists with blows and pepper spray."[8] German-Polish Cooperation In its efforts to overthrow the government in Kiev, Berlin is implicating Polish foreign policy to a growing extent. According to a paper published in mid-November by the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP), "Berlin and Warsaw" must be "the main initiators" in the EU's Ostpolitik. Within the framework of a German-Polish "Partnership for Europe" a "close German-Polish cooperation is essential" - particularly in relationship to the Ukraine.[9] In their "common declaration" issued in late November, the foreign ministers of the two countries declared that they are "solidly on the side of the people of the Ukraine," who "could still benefit from the extensive European offer of a close political and economic cooperation" - referring to the EU Association Agreement.[10] In the course of their common initiatives for the Ukraine. Polish diplomats have met on various occasions, with Svoboda representatives. The Svoboda Party sees itself as standing in the traditions of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) Nazi collaborators and their Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA). In mid-October, the party celebrated - allegedly with 20,000 participants - the UPA's founding October 14, 1942. In World War II, the UPA slaughtered up to 100,000 Poles - both Christian and Jewish - which is why Poland still officially registers it a "criminal organization."[11]

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Judging by the surveillance pic you posted, things are not looking good.

ThePublicEnemyNo1
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Judging by the surveillance pic you posted, things are not looking good.

It can be found here on the main page. Right under 'Putin declares war.'

asen_y2k
Survellance cam pic of a government building in Crimea.

Claimed to be the Russian army in control there now.

edit on 1/3/14 by asen_y2k because: (no reason given)

Its not a claim see my last post the Russians are occupying the territory and pictures are coming out ot the area.

Ukrainian Navy flagship takes Russia’s side

 Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, has reportedly refused to follow orders from Kiev, and come over to Russia’s side and is returning home after taking part in NATO operation in the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.

There has been conflicting information on where exactly the vessel is, but a Russian senator has confirmed to Izvestia daily that the frigate defected to the Russian side.

“Ukraine’s Navy flagship the Hetman Sahaidachny has come over to our side today. It has hung out the St Andrew’s flag,” Senator Igor Morozov, a member of the committee on the international affairs, told Izvestia daily.

rt.com...

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That has been proven to be a hoax report and another example of Russian Propaganda.

flammadraco

Ukrainian Navy flagship takes Russia’s side

 Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, has reportedly refused to follow orders from Kiev, and come over to Russia’s side and is returning home after taking part in NATO operation in the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.

There has been conflicting information on where exactly the vessel is, but a Russian senator has confirmed to Izvestia daily that the frigate defected to the Russian side.

“Ukraine’s Navy flagship the Hetman Sahaidachny has come over to our side today. It has hung out the St Andrew’s flag,” Senator Igor Morozov, a member of the committee on the international affairs, told Izvestia daily.

rt.com...

This is disputed news, both sides claiming something else. Check back a few pages. I linked both Ukrainian and Russian news claiming the opposite.

reply to post by asen_y2k


Dam it....I wish I could read that! Can anyone translate parts of the link?

ETA
Forgot to add the Link

Melbourne_Militia
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That has been proven to be a hoax report and another example of Russian Propaganda.

Well we dont know who is hoaxing.

Also...

On the Offensive 2014/01/24 KIEV/BERLIN (Own report) - Following the escalation of the violent protests in Kiev, Berlin's favorite, Vitaly Klitschko, is threatening to launch a new "offensive" against the government. The offensive would begin, Klitschko announced on Wednesday, should President Yanukovych not resign by yesterday evening. The deadline passed without resignation.

Tensions are rising. German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has "various contacts" within the Ukrainian opposition, explained Chancellor Merkel, mounting pressure on the Ukrainian government by demanding that the government protect "the freedom of expression and peaceful assembly." Last weekend's surge in violence - which preceded the brutal police repression - was sparked by ultra rightwing activists, who had been participating in the "Euromaidan" protests from the very beginning and who, according to observers, are winning growing acceptance. "Progressive activists" have to fight "on two fronts" in Kiev today: "against the regime that supports police violence" but also "against extremist nationalism." Ultra rightwing leaders are already threatening civil war.

The German Government Takes Position Following the escalation of the bloody protests in Kiev, Berlin and Brussels are increasing their pressure on the Ukrainian government. The government has responded to the on-going barricades in downtown Kiev with new repressive laws, some of which already exist also in Germany - such as the law forbidding wearing masks in demonstrations. This has sparked violent protests. Demonstrators threw bricks and Molotov cocktails at police, set police busses on fire and erected barricades. Police used their weapons and fired rubber bullets into the crowd killing several demonstrators. The opposition is now threatening a further escalation of violence. In this situation, the German government is taking a one-sided position in opposition to the Ukrainian government, with Chancellor Merkel demanding that it "restore basic democratic rights." EU Commission President Barroso is threatening Kiev with "serious consequences." But no pressure is being exerted on the opposition to stop the threat of violence.[1]

A Single Leader Vitaly Klitschko, the favorite of the German foreign policy elite, is particularly fueling the protests. Klitschko who has been groomed by the CDU-affiliated Konrad Adenauer Foundation into an opposition leader [2] has issued an "ultimatum" to the government, threatening that if it is not met by yesterday evening, he would go "on the offensive." It is "not clear," what this implies, according to the German Institute for International and Security Affairs (SWP), but "violence" can not be ruled out.[3] Klitschko is seeking to use the escalation to secure for himself the leadership of the opposition. A few days ago his single-handed negotiation with the Ukrainian president was met with anger by the two other leaders of the opposition, with whom he had previously agreed to a common approach. Klitschko's UDAR party is now giving the word that the recent surge in violence proves that it is time for the demonstrators to have "a single leader." Klitschko should assume this role, because his rivals Arseniy Yatsenyuk and Oleh Tiahnybok are too hesitant.[4]

Success for Ethno-Nationalists While Klitschko is still banking on escalation, warnings are heard that the protests, that he and Berlin are fueling, are creating a nationalist climate that is grist to the mill of the rightwing extremists. Already at the beginning of this year, the Ukraine specialist, Andreas Umland, ascertained "a far more notable presence" of slogans and symbols of the former Ukrainian Nazi-collaborators around Stepan Bandera in current protests than in the 2004 demonstrations. Some of the Nazi-collaborators' "leitmotifs" are now "characteristic of the entire protest movement", a "remarkable success" for the "neo-Banderite ethno-nationalists."[5] This has been confirmed by progressive activists. Even though masses have not flocked to the ultra righting groups, they have become "more acceptable, and in a way, more mainstream than before, for many active citizens," according to a member of the NGO "Center for Social Action." And according to another activist, progressive demonstrators have to "fight on two fronts, against a regime that supports harmful police violence … and also against extreme nationalism, which is recognized and legitimate on the Maidan.” This is were Klitschko comes in. According to reports, he has also made it a habit of framing his Maidan-speeches with slogans from the Bandera tradition.[6]

"Right-Wing Sector" The growing tolerance of the rightwing extremists is now also reflected in violence. Already at an early stage of the protest, critical observers had noted that the surge in violence on December 1, had not been sparked by paid provocateurs - as was also alleged in Germany - but by thugs, whose rightwing extremist affiliation could not only be seen by their "black wolf's hook" symbol armbands. Some could be indentified as known ultra rightwing activists of organizations, such as the "Tryzub" - formed in 1993 as a paramilitary unit and becoming known also for attacks on gays. Ultra right-wingers from various organizations had assembled on the Maidan and formed the ‘Right-Wing Sector' ("Pravyi Sektor") to plan and carry out violent actions such as the one on December 1. Already in November they had attacked left-wing activists without jeopardizing their reputation.[7]

Ready to Die The "Right-Wing Sector" sparked not only the December violence but also the recent, by far more brutal, wave of violence, to which the police have responded with deadly repression. According to various reports, the activists have claimed the responsibility for the attacks on the police in Kiev, using stones, Molotov cocktails, self-made weapons, including slingshots and bows and arrows. An ultra rightwing activist, who had once been convicted of murder, was among those perpetrating the violence, who had been arrested. The "Right-Wing Sector" seems to have growing success in involving government opponents, who, up to now, had considered themselves as apolitical, in their violent activities. Their activists seem very dedicated. "I've had a confession, I took my communion, so now I am ready to die," one of them is quoted as saying.[8]

Guerrilla Warfare "Rightwing sector" ringleaders have begun to threaten a civil war. Should the Ukrainian forces of repression continue to carry out a bloody crackdown, "I think there will be a massacre," one of them was quoted: "Guerrilla warfare will begin in Ukraine."[9] A few days ago, Vitali Klitschko had also said that he could not rule out civil war. It could be a bad omen that the protests have now begun to escalate in those regions of Western Ukraine, from which a large portion of the Kiev demonstrators originate. According to reports, several administrative buildings have been occupied, for example in Lviv, a stronghold of rightwing extremists.[10] The rightwing extremists are benefiting from pressure Berlin is applying on the Ukrainian government and from the fact that German diplomats, on various occasions, have met with functionaries of the rightwing extremist Svoboda party. According to Svoboda, the talks also covered the possible overthrow of the government. (german-foreign-policy.com reported.[11]) If the government is overthrown, it goes without saying that Svoboda will demand its share of the power in Kiev. In such a case, Berlin will have rendered practical assistance to placing a rightwing extremist party, at least, in the proximity of governing.

German Foreign Policy

Part of the smoking gun...

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Under the pic in large fonts-Putin declares war against Ukraine.

reply to post by asen_y2k


Are you aware of any local reporters on the ground near any of these Russan occupied areas?

Along with a pic of a large US flag-

U.S. and the West should immediately stop the advance of Russia in Ukraine - Senator Corker

Ukra inian news link

ThePublicEnemyNo1
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Are you aware of any local reporters on the ground near any of these Russan occupied areas?

Yup reporting live on TV. I mentioned their reports here.

www.bbc.com... bbc site with updates on whats going on seems to be updated pretty regularly

flammadraco

Ukrainian Navy flagship takes Russia’s side

 Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, has reportedly refused to follow orders from Kiev, and come over to Russia’s side and is returning home after taking part in NATO operation in the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.

There has been conflicting information on where exactly the vessel is, but a Russian senator has confirmed to Izvestia daily that the frigate defected to the Russian side.

“Ukraine’s Navy flagship the Hetman Sahaidachny has come over to our side today. It has hung out the St Andrew’s flag,” Senator Igor Morozov, a member of the committee on the international affairs, told Izvestia daily.

rt.com...

Well now there going to directly involve NATO because of this action. Ukraine was being considered for entry into NATO and was being integrated so i guarantee this will put NATO on high alert. They ship probably wont get past Turkey i have a feeling they will be detained.

RalagaNarHallas
www.bbc.com... bbc site with updates on whats going on seems to be updated pretty regularly

Thanks that's what I was looking for 👍

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Thanks to you as well for dedicating your time and keeping us informed..

Stay Safe Friend

ThePublicEnemyNo1

RalagaNarHallas
www.bbc.com... bbc site with updates on whats going on seems to be updated pretty regularly

Thanks that's what I was looking for 👍

Al Jazeera has a good live update too- HERE

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www.interpretermag.com...
some news from inside Ukrain