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originally posted by: Winstonian
The one thing you are failing to mention here, is that ultra right wing groups are quickly labeled as terrorists, by the United States government, JDL, SPLC etc. etc. Look at how quickly the wildlife preserve guys were condemned by the regressives, the media, and everyone else. People called them terrorists right away even though there was zero violence.
originally posted by: Cesim
The team mentality that the two party system creates is obvious, and team mentalities ultimate lead to fanaticism and illogical conclusions. The "us vs them" mentality is embedded all over this post, yet the OP hardly recognizes (if at all) that we are all Americans before our political affiliation. This problem exists on both sides, and I believe it would be nonexistent or at least greatly minimized if the group think associated with the two party system was eliminated.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Gryphon66
No one is arguing that one political side can or previously has had violence, either side can be violent and this is demonstrated through history, once again, we are seeing a movement of left wing violence and I believe this should be thoroughly investigated as to the causes. It's simple there either is a left wing movement of violence taking place or there is not.
You begin by claiming that you're not arguing that "one political side can or previously has had violence" and end by claiming that there is a "left wing movement of violence."
I'm not the one confused here.
I'll leave you to your thread, Tech ... I had higher hopes that we were all going to agree for once that violence has no place in American politics.
I was mistaken on that point it seems.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
It is the left that preach equality, fairness and tolerance and act like some saints by claiming that as their mantra. The problem is...that is bullcrap. The ones who claim the crown of tolerance are the most intolerant.
violence has no place in politics, nor in opinion nor in words or arguments. Hell...it has no place anywhere unless it is used or threatened against you first.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: TheBulk
Don't worry too much about Left wing hate groups. After your guy is done banning the Muslims and deporting the Mexicans and silencing the media, and murdering the innocent families of terrorists, I'm sure he'll get started on targeting the Leftists. He clearly makes war with all who oppose him- even federal judges.
Ugh there is so much reason to see Trump supporters as retarded. I really think post 9/11 propaganda retarded Republican brains.
"Unless violence is used or threatened first. Such as the threats of mass deportation? How about the threats of torture and murdering innocent families, threats of blatant war crimes. The threat toward media and all who oppose him? Trump threatened America first. You are seeing the response.
Don't be so blind to think these protests came from no where. The Left does indeed preach peace and tolerance and equality-- and will absolutely rise up against a tyrant campaigning for draconian measures.
If you support a tyrant, that's on you."
originally posted by: Zimnydran
This is the latinos way of letting us know whats coming if Trump is elected and carries out the will of the people
originally posted by: LordDraconia
If he were trying to mass deport legal citizens then yes it would be 100% their right to riot in the streets. Unfortunately for your argument they are illegally here and committing violence. So that's 2 strikes. Israel knocks down the houses of the families of terrorists. It helps cut down on terrorist attacks. Jihadists groups compensate the family of the terrorist victims with large $ sums. If we ever want to beat the terrorists we're going to stop pretending we're not going to get our hands dirty while they're chopping our heads off.
All hate groups have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: spiritualzombie
But your argument disappears when you call following the law violence and hate.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
originally posted by: LordDraconia
If he were trying to mass deport legal citizens then yes it would be 100% their right to riot in the streets. Unfortunately for your argument they are illegally here and committing violence. So that's 2 strikes. Israel knocks down the houses of the families of terrorists. It helps cut down on terrorist attacks. Jihadists groups compensate the family of the terrorist victims with large $ sums. If we ever want to beat the terrorists we're going to stop pretending we're not going to get our hands dirty while they're chopping our heads off.
We have gotten our hands plenty dirty-- you're advocating the targeting and murder of innocent people. You've lost your way if you think that's okay.
Also, stop PRETENDING that the only possible response to illegal immigration is mass deportation. That's the most extreme response possible. There could be a path to citizenship, get them in the system, so they can be made legit. But it just doesn't feed the anger enough, does it?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Zimnydran
This is the latinos way of letting us know whats coming if Trump is elected and carries out the will of the people
Which "will of the People" is that?
The 58% or so that still describe their opinion of him as "Unfavorable"?
Real Clear Politics - Poll Averages -Trump Favorable/Unfavorable.