Loretta Fuddy Death - Obama Birth Certificate. - New evidence

The Maui County Fire Department Battalion Chief name is Richard T. Kawasaki. I wonder is he is related to the pilot, Clyde H. Kawasaki?
From the MCFD report there is Richards' signature on it.

Here are 2 photos of Richard T. Kawasaki when he was promoted to Battalion Chief on March 28, 2013. The photo below he's on the left.

The photo below he's on the right.

Theoretically if the pilot and Battalion Chief are related, that's something to ponder...
mauinow.com...

Neil Abercrombie has strong motives to help Barry keep his fraudulent birth records hidden. He was a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus which has ties to Democratic Socialists of America and the Communist Party USA.
keywiki.org...

While attending the University of Hawaii in the early 1960s, Neil Abercrombie was part of a circle that included Barak Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham, the parents of future U.S. president Barack Obama[3]. The self-assured and opinionated Obama spoke with a voice so deep that "he made James Earl Jones seem like a tenor," said Neil Abercrombie, a Democratic congressman from Hawaii who was part of those regular gatherings. Although he didn't say it at the time, Abercrombie privately feared that the relationship would be short-lived. Obama was one of the most ambitious, self-focused men he had ever met. After Obama was accepted to study at Harvard, Stanley Ann disappeared from the University of Hawaii student gatherings, but she did not accompany her husband to Harvard. Abercrombie said he rarely saw her after that. "I know he loved Ann," Abercrombie said, but "I think he didn't want the impediment of being responsible for a family. He expected great things of himself and he was going off to achieve them."[4] The marriage failed. Stanley Ann filed for divorce in 1964 and remarried two years later, when her son was 5. The senior Obama finished his work at Harvard and returned to Kenya, where he hoped to realize his big dreams of taking a place in the Kenyan government. Years later, Abercrombie and another grad school friend looked up their old friend during a trip through Africa[5]. At that point, the senior Obama was a bitter man, according to the congressman, feeling that he had been denied due opportunities to influence the running of his country. "He was drinking too much; his frustration was apparent," Abercrombie said. To Abercrombie's surprise, Obama never asked about his ex-wife or his son. Abercrombie remains a friend to both Obama Jr. and his half sister Maya Soertoro. He was among the guests in attendance at Soertoro's wedding on December 28, 2003 along with then State Senator Barack Obama.[6] Supporting Obama junior Barack Obama, Neil Abercrombie Barack Obama, Neil Abercrombie Neil Abercrombie would become one of the first people in the nation to support their son, Barack Obama, in his historic candidacy for president. He served as the honorary chair of the Hawaii Obama Campaign.[7] Abercrombie also served as an Obama surrogate, "campaigning for Barack across the state of Iowa" before the 2008 first in that nation caucus.

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The pilot who spotted the crashed Makani Kai aircraft? His name is Josh Lang and he has done aerial filming for movies and tv shows! And he also flies for the government on contract.

As far as pilot qualifications Josh Lang has been flying for 15 years, flying mostly helicopters from Florida to Hawaii. He has flown for a number of films and TV shows also. Josh enjoys flying for them because he indulges in some acting as well. He also enjoys the water and he is an avid surfer here on the beautiful North Shore. Pilot Robert has been flying helicopters for about 23 years and airplanes for 25 years now. He also has flown all over the U.S. but say’s he loves Hawaii the best. Between the two Pilots (Robert and Josh) they have logged more than 16,000 flight hours, and feel blessed to be able to share the sights that Hawaii has to offer. They both are commercial helicopter pilots, as well as certified flight instructors. They also fly for the U.S. Government on contract. From tours to fire-fighting, to aerial spraying, they do it all here in the State of Hawaii. They say it keeps them busy and love it.

www.usatravelmagazine.com...

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My bad on this one. I did some more checking and I just didn't understand the geography well enough. I typed up a post and my computer swallowed it (sigh), but basically the part about the location changing was about the staging area for TOPSIDE Molokai, not Kalaupapa. The airport at Kalaupapa was probably the staging area there, but on topside they staged at the Pavilion of the State Park because it was a more direct route to the hospital than either the airport or the Hawaii Coffee on topside. Maui Medevac was helping with triage at kalaupapa and transported one victim to topside in stable condition, as well as transported Fuddy (it's claimed). That helicopter was deployed from Maui and was manned by a crew from there. Looking at www.co.maui.hi.us... on p 6 and pp 17ff helped, although it's still confusing. I think Scotty Schaefer is an EMT with American Medical Services, which is called on to do EMS on Molokai through 911. So he isn't actually with the MCFD and wouldn't be listed in their reports even though he would be there when the ambulance is called up - as was the case for the ambulance that was called up to the topside staging area, at the pavilion at the state park.


The numbers in the MCFD report don't add up though - all the way through. But of particular interest is the note that at 5:19 the Kalaupapa command was reporting that the USCG had one on board (helicopter? plane?) in critical condition and they were trying to figure out whether to fly them to Maui or to Honolulu. If that was Fuddy then the stories of what happened with her are all false. If it's not fuddy then the reports left out the person in critical condition who was IN ADDITION TO THE 9 that were accounted for as being in stable condition, dead, or having swum ashore. So the numbers and stories STILL don't add up.

It also appears that part of the MCFD incident report are missing. It seems like the communications were cut off in mid-word.

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I wonder if he was flying on contract for the US government that day...

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This Maui County Fire Department report is dated January 27, 2014, so they had plenty of time to deliberately hack it up to make it almost unintelligible. It reads like a half illiterate high school dropout wrote it. There is on page 7 however mention of the USCG having a person on board their chopper in critical condition. The date and time as written in the report, 20131211 171942HS. So the date is December 11, 2013 and the time is 5:19 pm local time. I believe they had Loretta Fuddy on their chopper. Remember that no rescue showed up until 80 minutes after the crash which happened approximately 3:30 pm local time. Add 80 minutes to 3:30 pm and you get 4:50 pm. 30 minutes later will bring the time to 5:19 pm! Loretta Fuddy was alive when pulled from the water, but instead of being saved by being flown to a hospital, the USCG was ordered to take her to the leper colony at Kalaupapa to die.

I find it very unusual and suspicious that Neil Abercrombie decided to resign from the U.S. Congress in 2010, 2 years after Barry was elected president, so he could return to Hawaii and be appointed governor. Yes that's right, I said appointed not elected. One of Barrys' biggest cheerleaders and the 1st to back him for president decided to go backwards on the ladder.

Normally governors will proceed upwards toward office in Washington either in Congress or the president. So it looks like Barry asked him to go back to Hawaii and cover up his past...

After all they're all Communists and working for a common cause, the destruction of the U.S. from within.

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The times and stories don't match up, that's for sure. Mark Miller claimed that by 4:30 they had everybody out of the water and Fuddy and a man were in the USCG helicopter being worked on. The man made it but Fuddy didn't, according to Miller. Maybe this is another place where the story line wasn't coordinated well enough.

The USCG said they trnasported a 73-year-old woman and (however old Puentes is) year-old man to the Honolulu airport in stable condition. Honolulu EMS says they transported 2 people via ambulance from the airport to Queens Hospital. The USCG also said they transported one directly to Queens Hospital. Presumably this person in critical condition. So that's 3 that the USCG transported for medical care. Maui Medevac transported one in stable condition to topside staging and MCFD transported 2. Holstein swam ashore and wasn't transported anywhere as far as I know. Yamamoto and Kawasaki waited in Kalaupapa to be flown by Makani Kai to Honolulu, where Kawasaki either drove or had somebody drive him (depending on which story you read) to Queens. Yamamoto was driven to his home. Add in Fuddy being dead and that's 10 people, unless Holstein is one of the people transported by MCFD or Maui Medevac. But none of the reports talk about there being a person in critical condition - nor do they explain why the USCG flew one directly to Queens Hospital.

The way I see it is that either one of these divers was actually in critical condition, or Fuddy was not dead when they pulled her from the water and they tried to hide that by claiming that her dead body was taken to topside and on to the morgue on Molokai, or she was fine and they dropped her off at Queens where she was whisked away into hiding, or they just BS'ed about this "critical condition" to try to allow cover for the "trapped in the fuselage" story.

Gotta run.

The Makani Kai aircraft that crashed with registration # N687MA was leased from Leis Air LLC in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Leis Air LLC is owned by DORVIN D. LEIS. Aircraft ownership and leasing.
businessprofiles.com...
Dorvin and Betty Leis donate $1 Million to Maui Community College, the gift is the largest in Maui campus' history.

HONOLULU — The University of Hawaiʻi Board of Regents (BOR) voted today to accept the largest gift ever to Maui Community College (MCC) — a $1 million commitment from husband and wife Dorvin and Betty Leis to advance sustainability initiatives at the campus. To recognize their generosity, the BOR approved renaming the school‘s fine dining facility as The Leis Family Class Act Restaurant. "We are very pleased to support MCC and its leadership role in sustainability," said Dorvin Leis. "Higher education is one of our most powerful resources in creating a sustainable future and ensuring long-term prosperity in Maui County and the state of Hawaiʻi." The Leis‘ gift will establish an endowment known as the Dorvin and Betty Leis Sustainability Fund that will benefit academic and programmatic efforts that carry forward all aspects of sustainability at MCC, including environmental, economic, programmatic and academic purposes. Initially it will assist sustainability efforts in the culinary arts, construction technologies and agriculture programs, as well as explore developing courses in renewable fuels and energy conservation. The endowment will be managed by the University of Hawaiʻi Foundation, which is the university‘s private, nonprofit fundraising partner.

www.uhm.hawaii.edu...

OK, when I see University of Hawaii, sustainability initiatives (agenda 21), and the non profit organization University of Hawaii Foundation all mentioned in the above article my immediate thought is to look for a connection to the East West Center! Of course that was not hard to find. Simply do a search for "University of Hawaii Foundation and the East West Foundation" and there are plenty of results! Like this one. www.eastwestcenter.org...


Contributing an 11 year old aircraft for the cause is nothing, especially since it was insured and Leis Air LLC will recoup that loss. there is a web of corruption involving the East West Center, University of Hawaii, Hawaii state government, Democratic Socialists of America, Democratic Party, and the Barry administration.

Perhaps the IRS should be investigating these type of non profit organizations!

butterdezillion
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The times and stories don't match up, that's for sure. Mark Miller claimed that by 4:30 they had everybody out of the water and Fuddy and a man were in the USCG helicopter being worked on. The man made it but Fuddy didn't, according to Miller. Maybe this is another place where the story line wasn't coordinated well enough.

The USCG said they trnasported a 73-year-old woman and (however old Puentes is) year-old man to the Honolulu airport in stable condition. Honolulu EMS says they transported 2 people via ambulance from the airport to Queens Hospital. The USCG also said they transported one directly to Queens Hospital. Presumably this person in critical condition. So that's 3 that the USCG transported for medical care. Maui Medevac transported one in stable condition to topside staging and MCFD transported 2. Holstein swam ashore and wasn't transported anywhere as far as I know. Yamamoto and Kawasaki waited in Kalaupapa to be flown by Makani Kai to Honolulu, where Kawasaki either drove or had somebody drive him (depending on which story you read) to Queens. Yamamoto was driven to his home. Add in Fuddy being dead and that's 10 people, unless Holstein is one of the people transported by MCFD or Maui Medevac. But none of the reports talk about there being a person in critical condition - nor do they explain why the USCG flew one directly to Queens Hospital.

The way I see it is that either one of these divers was actually in critical condition, or Fuddy was not dead when they pulled her from the water and they tried to hide that by claiming that her dead body was taken to topside and on to the morgue on Molokai, or she was fine and they dropped her off at Queens where she was whisked away into hiding, or they just BS'ed about this "critical condition" to try to allow cover for the "trapped in the fuselage" story.

Gotta run.

Well this photo from Hawaii News Now claims that this USCG chopper is landing on the roof of The Queens Medical Center in Honolulu with a rescued person or persons from the crashed Makani Kai aircraft.


The Google Earth image below is The Queens Medical Center was taken on Jan 16, 2013 and the landing pad is painted in a different design. I believe both images are the same hospital because the HVAC duct work looks similar.


I do like your theory that the "critical" passenger was flown to Oahu. They could have landed at their base, dropped off Fuddy, then land on top of The Queens Medical Center with some other passenger who was "critical" and get the photo op in for the press. Fuddy was then flown off in a C-130 to start her new life in the witness protection program, while back on Molokai the charade was played out of her "body" being taken topside after dark and all that followed afterwards...

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Sunset was at 5:51 that day. See www.timeanddate.com...

At 5:19 they were trying to figure out where to take the critical person. That's with 32 minutes until sunset. It's about a 20-minute flight to Honolulu in that aircraft. Seems like there's too much light in that photo.

butterdezillion
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Sunset was at 5:51 that day. See www.timeanddate.com...

At 5:19 they were trying to figure out where to take the critical person. That's with 32 minutes until sunset. It's about a 20-minute flight to Honolulu in that aircraft. Seems like there's too much light in that photo.

After looking at this Bing Maps photo of The Queens Medical Center and examining the landing pad further, I can see that the photo with the USGC chopper is definitely on top of that hospital. I have circled the spot where I believe the photo was taken. What date that photo was taken remains debatable. The MCFD pdf report is written very poorly...probably intentionally.

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What part of the building would be showing up behind the furnaces (or whatever those metal things sticking up are)? The building part behind those looks taller than the furnace/whatever things and looks like it's right behind them.

butterdezillion
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What part of the building would be showing up behind the furnaces (or whatever those metal things sticking up are)? The building part behind those looks taller than the furnace/whatever things and looks like it's right behind them.

That is a good question. That building height behind the chopper doesn't jive with the images from Google Earth or Bing. It's too high. Perhaps it's a new building that was put up after the Google Earth image was taken? But it would have been built lightning fast, less than a year. Or it's a stage prop made to look like the pad on top of The Queens Medical Center. Photoshop is also in the running...

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Do you know when the bing image was taken? And when the google image was taken?

That corner is the only place where there were the individual metal structures on top of the roof so it's the only place the landing could have occurred to get that image on Queen's. But there are landing markings on the roof in the news photo, and I'm not certain there's even room for a helicopter to land in that corner, compared to the landing pad shown in the google and bing images.

Seems like it might be a different place.

I wonder if Queen's did any additions to their facility in the time between when the bing and google images were taken and Dec 11, 2013.

The news photo is captioned to say that it was taking multiple survivors of the crash directly to Queens, which doesn't match the USCG's news release. But then, none of the accounts match.

HDOT and FAA both claim they can't release any information because there's an NTSB investigation. But the MCFD had no problem releasing the information. Maybe I should ask MCFD what parts, if any, were left out of their incident report. The report stopped in mid-word when it came to the issue of the person in critical condition. Surely the report eventually explained what they did with the person in critical condition, so the MCFD would know if their services were needed any more...

I can't get anybody at the USCG to give me the time of day. They bobbled me from the DC people to the Hawaii people and back again, and won't give me a phone number for somebody to talk to in DC. The HI gal is away until March 20th and I'm waiting for the other gal to call back, just so I can find out a way to call the DC folks and see why this request is 2 months old and I'm no closer to getting a response than I was the day I filed the online request. Obfuscation and sandbagging - they're ALL doing it. The guy at HDOT/Airports told me a little over a week ago that the denial because of the NTSB investigation was a bunch of hogwash, wanted to know who had told me that. I called him yesterday and he's now saying they will never give out information when there's any type of investigation. I said it must be very difficult for there to be any news reported at all then. And as I think about it now, the USCG gave the media details (such as that they were notified at 3:22, etc) even though there was an investigation underway at the time. So it's all a bunch of hogwash. They know the stories are mashed and they are sandbagging the legal requirement of disclosure.

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Welcome to ATS. I assume you're you the same Butterdezillion who posts at New Republic?

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Thanks. I don't know if I've ever posted at New Rebublic but until recently I posted quite a bit at Free Republic.

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It sounds like the USGG is part of the lie. Keep this image in your mind when you're trying to get information from them. This is the level that you're dealing with. Robots who do as they're told.


The Bing image was taken in 2012 sometime, the Google Earth image was taken on January 16, 2013. I looked at all the hospitals in Hawaii and couldn't find a landing pad that looks like the one on The Queens Medical Center. How do you say liars in Hawaiian?

butterdezillion
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Thanks. I don't know if I've ever posted at New Rebublic but until recently I posted quite a bit at Free Republic.

LMAO! Duuuuuh! I meant Free Republic. You've done some excellent work on the eligibility issue. Mike has done an awesome job on this thread! Are you familiar with Birther Report...?

Again, welcome!

I'm posting this since it conflicts with the premise of the thread. However no matter which may be true, one fact remains. Maybe someone wants to take the ball and run with it. Have not found a thread pertaining to this video here on ATS. It was allegedly leaked last week, so surprised there's nothing here about it.