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Night Star
reply to post by Leonidas
Plus you still havent addressed the reality of why they are here, people and companies hire them by the millions. As long as there are jobs and people willing to hire them, they will come. Not all Americans believe as you do that they are a problem.
Exactly! They are hired because companies can pay them peanuts and treat them like crap. Like I said, if you take away the jobs and freebies, they will have no desire to be here. We need to enforce existing laws and companies won't be allowed to hire them.
OpinionatedB
reply to post by Leonidas
No, I would not be satisfied. You don't change your laws in order to make people innocent. Laws are in place for a reason. Good reason at that.
Night Star
reply to post by Leonidas
By our laws being 'enforced'. Right now, only some companies are caught and made to pay fines. We need for all companies to be responsible for their actions. We need for all companies to hire citizens.
OpinionatedB
reply to post by Leonidas
You have yet to demonstrate how removing people humanely is an impossibility.
I would expect for you to say such things you would have some sort of proof.. as in.. which countries have refused to take back their own people, and where are the case reports of these instances?
I have never heard such things and as such I would like to see proof of these allegations.edit on 1-2-2014 by OpinionatedB because: (no reason given)
OpinionatedB
reply to post by Leonidas
Generally starts with what language they speak.
As I said, where is the proof that Mexico or any other country is refusing to take back people who crossed the border illegally.
Its not a game of what if's here. Lets work on fact alone.
The facts are you cannot deport someone to a country they are not a citizen of. It happens every single day. It is not a hypothetical problem, it is a real, practical everyday problem
Night Star
Had our laws have been enforced many years ago, we woudn't be in this predicament today. How many amnesties have we had? After the last one we were promised a secure borders and NO MORE AMNESTY. THEY LIED! With each amnesty comes millions more illegals. This has gotten so out of hand it is ridiculous.
Millions of our citizens are jobless, suffering, falling through the cracks...we have homeless and hungry and things are not improving. Something has to be done and soon. Amnesty has had a negative impact for the citizens of America. It hasn't worked in the past, only made things worse.
OpinionatedB
reply to post by Leonidas
So basically, you have no proof of anything you say.
Thanks but no thanks, I will take fact over someone's opinion, and yours apparently has nothing to back it up by way of factual data.
Spanish and any other language has dialectical nuances, a native speaker is able to pinpoint the area in which someone is from based on dialect and accent and speech patterns as a general rule.edit on 1-2-2014 by OpinionatedB because: (no reason given)
Night Star
reply to post by Leonidas
By our laws being 'enforced'. Right now, only some companies are caught and made to pay fines. We need for all companies to be responsible for their actions. We need for all companies to hire citizens.
Night Star
reply to post by Leonidas
We already carry Identification and use it frequently. If you are stopped by a cop in a vehical, you have to show papers for that. We use our licenses all the time for proof of identification. The trouble with illegals is that they steal ID's and use fraudulant paperwork.
“There is no quality here, only quantity,” said Kenneth Palinkas, president of the National Citizenship and Immigration Services Council. “USCIS is not equipped to handle this workload, and due to political interference in its mission, is not empowered to deny admission to all those who should be denied due to ineligibility. We have become a visa clearinghouse for the world, rather than the first line of defense for a secure immigration system.”