reply to post by NihilistSanta
Your post reminds me of Garrett Hardin's lifeboat ethics (though Hardin and his wife notably offed themselves to liberate their seats on the
lifeboat). In many ways, it is true. Even with recycling, we don't get 100% of the resources already used back so we can't even say that we've
stabilized even a portion of our resource drain. According to the Economist, as of 2007, we're only recycling about 32% of our waste.
We live in a world where metals are so costly that even a longstanding bridge isn't safe.
In many ways, even with our little improvements, it's not too hard to see that the path that we're on is fundamentally unsustainable as our
burgeoning population acquires more and more. And you're spot on with bringing up AI and robotics. Some of the projections and stern advice given
to my classmates and I in my recent foray in college were that most jobs would become automated in some way and that we absolutely needed to find
things that a computer could not do. Even my 11 year old heard this warning when her gifted teacher asked the students what they wanted to do when
they grew up and replied with the crushing reality that most of the jobs that they'd like to do would be gone by the time they came of age. That's
reality. We're not there yet but give it a decade and we may very well be.
I also agree that the majority of us are most likely considered to be the equivalent of "foreign aid". Since we exist in a world that is
increasingly globalized with corporations who are increasingly becoming conglomerates, then we should really understand that the people at the heads
of these entities are literally people without a country. They may have a home in LA, NY, Paris, London, Hong Kong and more, spending the majority of
their time commuting via jet. They don't have any real national root to this country or any other country for that matter anymore so you bet that
our welfare (traditional meaning, not current) is most likely viewed as "foreign aid". Odds are, we're nothing to them and they are so far away
from the common person that we are but ants to giants. When was the last time any of you took care in where you stepped for fear of crushing an ant?
The question is, however, was this all planned? Considering that you, I and many others on these boards can see the writing on the wall, it's not a
stretch of the imagination that they, with all of their think tanks, analysts and futurists, see that same writing. These issues are nothing new
either as they have been an underlying theme since at least the 60's or 70's with various dire warnings, some failed and some accurate.
Are they going to kill us all though? I'm not so sure. We may actually wipe ourselves out. The suicide rats for Boomers are on the increase
while the fertility rates in Millenials are declining
--globally with some
exceptions (more hit by the recession --> more suicides)
we look out the window and can see that the world seems sort of okay now, what's going to happen when the above issues really start taking affect?
They may not have to do a whole lot to reduce our populations. We may very well do it for them simply out of desperation or fear of the future.