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Does fluoride increase the risk of osteosarcoma in young men? This case control study by the New York Department of Health tested this hypothesis by comparing the estimated fluoride intake of 130 osteosarcoma victims with that of an equal number of presumed healthy sex- and age-matched surrogates. The authors report finding little difference, and concluded that fluoride does not increase the risk, and may even be protective.
reply to post by Sovaka
I never said that water on it's own was not bad for people.
I only said that fluoride aids people in dental hygiene and the best way to get this to people that have poor dental hygiene is through the water, as everyone drinks it.
That is why, I believe and the evidence shows, they fluoridate water.
How can you so easily dismiss that it hasn't irrevocably harmed someone?
Then why not simply only fluoridate water supplies in areas that have dental hygiene issues? Like third world countries?
Why fluoridate water supplies for first world countries that have things like tooth paste and mouth wash and dentists?
Oh fks sake... There you go dismissing most of my post again. You keep doing that buddy and I will report every damn post you make on this subject where you dismiss a bulk of information.
Are you a chemical engineer? A scientist or medical professional with a PHD or MD degree of any kind? Can you precisely inform the residents of this thread how the chemical Sodium fluoride, Fluorosilicic acid or Sodium fluorosilicate breaks down in a humans digestive system. And how that in turn effects the human system?
You are talking about a controlled dosage in a water supply only.
Please take into account that only accounts for a percentage of TOTAL fluoride intake. You have added fluoride intake from drinking soft drinks, juices, coffees... ANY beverage that uses fluoridated tap water. Then you also have liquid based food stuffs that contain water that was from a fluoridated water source. Then you also have regular food stuffs that have been made with fluoridated water. Then you have organic foods grown with water from a fluoridate water source. (On this can I say a plant will adequately filter out fluoride? No)
Then you have products that contain ADDITIONAL fluoride that post a warning on their labels about ingestion. Things like Toothpaste, Mouth wash, dental hygiene products like teeth whiteners, dental floss.
When you roll all that Fluoride up into one single body and multiply it by the daily intake over a year... Then multiply that over the amount of years that person lives.
All sides agree to the fact that healthy kidneys can eliminate only about 50% of daily fluoride intake. The rest gets absorbed in calcified tissues, like bones and teeth.
The National Academy Of Sciences (NAS) stated in 1977 that, for the average individual, a retention of 2mg/day would result in crippling skeletal fluorosis after 40 years. Considering the above-mentioned intake level, it is likely that skeletal fluorosis already affects a significant portion of the population.
And you honestly want us to believe that the fluoridating of water is NOT bad for us? Not based on the fact we don't get to decide on this forced medication. But based on that a single persons diet only consists of one fluoridate product.
Here... You OP falls down... This is why you have people fight tooth an nail against your "information". Because even you... Despite how unbiased you tried to be. Despite how much or little research you have done... You still failed to account for the one element NO ONE can account for. The HUMAN element.
How much fluoride did my wife and I ingest?
What kind of fluoride is used? Is it the same everywhere? Can we be sure that the bad one will not be used?
How much fluoride is safe again?
Why is the government so adamant about our teeth?
Why are so many countries banning the use of fluoride as of the last 10 years?
Does Israelnot care about its populous' teeth?
reply to post by Wookiep
As stated earlier, it is about giving a level of dental care to people that otherwise wouldn't be able to, no matter how little the level of care is.
I appreciate your thread, thanks for making it. I'm split on the fluoride issue, and even more so, after reading this.
What time period are we living in? Who has access to tap water who doesn't have access to toothpaste??
Someone earlier mentioned that someone at that level is more concerned with where their next meal is coming from, and you agreed... who are these imaginary poor people who have homes with running tap water (meaning they pay their water bill) but do not have toothbrush, toothpaste, nor dentist?
They COULD just pass out fluoride pills at the homeless shelters, would save a lot.
I'm guessing that it's probably not very good for us, but not as bad as the fringe would like to believe. Who's making money off fluoridation? That would explain why it's so ensconced in our public works system, instead of vitamin B or C or other beneficial substances, as others mentioned...
reply to post by superman2012
I'm sure they do. I wonder what the populations dental hygiene is like though..