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Water Fluoridation will NOT kill you.

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posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:29 PM
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steaming
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Large companies, such as Aluminium Companies etc. were searching for a place to Dump their waste Fluids and yep, they do use Fluoride. Aluminium helps create Alzheimers Disease, so could you please repeat what you are saying.

I'm assuming you have sources for your claims...unless you are referring to fluoride being used to smelt aluminum...whoops. Repeating something that you heard doesn't make it true.
Could you please repeat what you were saying?




posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:35 PM
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Wookiep
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Hey, thanks for posting that! I was just wondering what I was going to do tonight, then bam! It looks to be high quality, hopefully I'll be smarter about fluoride after watching it.


Please do watch it. The first 20 minutes explain why its wrong to mass medicate, but the last half is where it gets interesting, especially listening to the guy who used to train the people who put that crap into the water supply.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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bitsforbytes


I'm sure they do. I wonder what the populations dental hygiene is like though..
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Well, thank you for being civil too! By the way, please visit this

LINK

I know you didn't say fluoride is good, you are kind of saying it with all your refuting though. So the site clearly shows you that tooth decay doesn't increase when countries don't fluoridate. So the whole point of it being good is not even valid according to the data on the site I gave you above.

Did you read the link
Did you read the link the first time I shared it?
Why do you feel so strongly about fluoride?
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I have read the link. It was brought up in other fluoride threads by posters on this thread.

Do they say that tooth decay is decreasing because of better dental hygiene in the other countries? That is a good thing then! The graphs show from 1930 to now and using that graph they claim fluoridated water and toothpaste is unnecessary? Apparently in New Zealand fluoridated toothpaste never made it there until 1970? Fluoride was first added to toothpaste in the 1890's! I think they have some shady fixing of numbers to make them fit going one over there.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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nofluoride.com...
Have a nice day now



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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VoidHawk

Wookiep
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Hey, thanks for posting that! I was just wondering what I was going to do tonight, then bam! It looks to be high quality, hopefully I'll be smarter about fluoride after watching it.


Please do watch it. The first 20 minutes explain why its wrong to mass medicate, but the last half is where it gets interesting, especially listening to the guy who used to train the people who put that crap into the water supply.

WHAT TIME IN THE VIDEO DO THEY SHOW THE PERSON WHO WAS HARMED/KILLED BY PROPERLY DOSED WATER FLUORIDATION!!?

I have asked you before for a name...



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:39 PM
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superman2012
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How much fluoride did my wife and I ingest?

Depends how much water you had in the first place, and how much coated around the pasta. At 0.7 mg/l my best guess without knowing the fluoride adhesive qualities of your pasta (
) is not much.


What kind of fluoride is used? Is it the same everywhere? Can we be sure that the bad one will not be used?

It depends on your town/city. Some are more expensive than others. None are "bad". If they killed people, they wouldn't be allowed to use them.




Why is the government so adamant about our teeth?

It's cheaper to fluoridate the water than to pay for hospital care due to poor dental hygiene. If you are too poor to take care of your teeth, chances are you can't afford health care.



Replies in order of above quotes...


1.Again, based on nothing, "my best guess, not much" no one is interested in your guessing, you're now doing what you're accusing the 'anti-fluoride camp' of doing... guessing, making stuff up, only your doing it with just your own head, not even slight evidence, not even an attempt at a calculation, that was a good point the guy raised and people have to rest assured they are fine because you're best guess is not much fluoride was ingested? come on man... I think you just like feeling like you're proving a point... as opposed to actually proving a point.. can you see the difference?

2.Here's a man who trusts his government, there's no chemicals in food or juice or anywhere that can kill you then??

3.You had to pay for your own dental treatment when they started putting fluoride in the water and the government doesn't do things that take money away from private companies... medical or otherwise... that's very anti-capitalist....



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posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:44 PM
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Great link!

Thank you very much... Only cements my belief further that fluoridating water is not at all beneficial.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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"How much fluoride did my wife and I ingest? "

"Depends how much water you had in the first place, and how much coated around the pasta. At 0.7 mg/l my best guess without knowing the fluoride adhesive qualities of your pasta (
) is not much."

"What kind of fluoride is used? Is it the same everywhere? Can we be sure that the bad one will not be used?"

"It depends on your town/city. Some are more expensive than others. None are "bad". If they killed people, they wouldn't be allowed to use them."


"Why is the government so adamant about our teeth?"

"It's cheaper to fluoridate the water than to pay for hospital care due to poor dental hygiene. If you are too poor to take care of your teeth, chances are you can't afford health care. "

Replies in order of above quotes...


1.Again, based on nothing, "my best guess, not much" no one is interested in your guessing, you're now doing what you're accusing the 'anti-fluoride camp' of doing... guessing, making stuff up, only your doing it with just your own head, not even slight evidence, not even an attempt at a calculation, that was a good point the guy raised and people have to rest assured they are fine because you're best guess is not much fluoride was ingested? come on man... I think you just like feeling like you're proving a point... as opposed to actually proving a point.. can you see the difference?

2.Here's a man who trusts his government, there's no chemicals in food or juice or anywhere that can kill you then??

3.You had to pay for your own dental treatment when they started putting fluoride in the water and the government doesn't do things that take money away from private companies... medical or otherwise... that's very anti-capitalist....



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:49 PM
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superman2012
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Argh! over 2 hours!? Can you please direct me to where the person is hurt by properly dosed water fluoridation?
Thanks in advance!
Even the name and then I will google it myself!


You claim to have thoroughly researched this subject, but you cant even be bothered to watch a vid that your told has your answers.
No I wont post where it is in the vid, YOU watch it!
But it doesnt really matter to you does it, because your on a mission, and that mission is to convince everyone that poison is good for them.

You say people have choice.
Just up the coast from where I live a whole (large) town took their council to court to prevent their water from being fluoridated. The reason it went to court was because the people believed they had a choice. Want to know what happened? The court said, and I quote "It's not illegal, so your having it". The court had no interest in whether it was good or bad, they only considered whether it was legal!
You are wrong, people do not have a choice, and that point alone should make you reconsider you're stance on this, but you wont.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:53 PM
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steaming
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nofluoride.com...
Have a nice day now

Explain?
I don't see aluminum anywhere...please show me where it says it is an aluminum byproduct and not a product used to convert aluminum ore into aluminum metal?
Thanks!



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:57 PM
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VoidHawk

superman2012
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Argh! over 2 hours!? Can you please direct me to where the person is hurt by properly dosed water fluoridation?
Thanks in advance!
Even the name and then I will google it myself!


You claim to have thoroughly researched this subject, but you cant even be bothered to watch a vid that your told has your answers.
No I wont post where it is in the vid, YOU watch it!
But it doesnt really matter to you does it, because your on a mission, and that mission is to convince everyone that poison is good for them.

You say people have choice.
Just up the coast from where I live a whole (large) town took their council to court to prevent their water from being fluoridated. The reason it went to court was because the people believed they had a choice. Want to know what happened? The court said, and I quote "It's not illegal, so your having it". The court had no interest in whether it was good or bad, they only considered whether it was legal!
You are wrong, people do not have a choice, and that point alone should make you reconsider you're stance on this, but you wont.

Fine. Seeing as how you refuse to show my your "proof" (there had better be dr's notes and other leads to google on this mystery person) I will watch you video at my convenience.

People still have a choice. Filter the water. There are choices. I don't agree with the courts ruling and would have pressed it forward. Do you have a link that I could read about that case?
What does that point have to do with my stance that it doesn't hurt people?? Are you confusing my real stance with one where I don't think people should have the choice? I made it clear that isn't what this thread is about.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:00 PM
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so... f""""""g so... what U are saying is that poison in small
amount is not poison?@@@
U have to be already intoxicated...
its your life, just be happy every day cos they are shorter and more difficult cos of ALL THOSE LEGAL POISONS WE "HAVE TO" USE .... cos thanks to the people like U this planet(people on it) need more time to awake up...
i am happy for those who are not affected to much



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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1.Again, based on nothing, "my best guess, not much" no one is interested in your guessing, you're now doing what you're accusing the 'anti-fluoride camp' of doing... guessing, making stuff up, only your doing it with just your own head, not even slight evidence, not even an attempt at a calculation, that was a good point the guy raised and people have to rest assured they are fine because you're best guess is not much fluoride was ingested? come on man... I think you just like feeling like you're proving a point... as opposed to actually proving a point.. can you see the difference?

You ask me a question without giving me anything to base my answer on and get upset about it? How much volume water can the pot hold? How much evaporated? How much fluoride will stick on cooked pasta? How much did you eat? What surface area of pasta coated your mouth/teeth? What kind of bowl did you use to eat the pasta out of? What are the adhesive qualities of the bowl? Etc.
No point to prove. I have already given you the amount of time it would take to get skeletal fluorosis from drinking water, it would take considerably longer to get it by cooking food in fluoridated water. Not hard to see that.



2.Here's a man who trusts his government, there's no chemicals in food or juice or anywhere that can kill you then??

Did I say that? Everything in moderation and done properly.
Eat a pound of salt.
Breathe water.
Drink 6 gallons of water at a sitting.



3.You had to pay for your own dental treatment when they started putting fluoride in the water and the government doesn't do things that take money away from private companies... medical or otherwise... that's very anti-capitalist....

I don't understand what point you are trying to make with this statement. Either way, it has nothing to do with the safety of water fluoridation.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:07 PM
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ZakOlongapo
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so... f""""""g so... what U are saying is that poison in small
amount is not poison?@@@
U have to be already intoxicated...
its your life, just be happy every day cos they are shorter and more difficult cos of ALL THOSE LEGAL POISONS WE "HAVE TO" USE .... cos thanks to the people like U this planet(people on it) need more time to awake up...
i am happy for those who are not affected to much

What chemicals do you ingest everyday? Do you read everything or just buy your fear on the way out? What chemicals are in your water besides fluoride? Do you even know? Do you know what is in the raw water before treating it? Do you know what they take out? Do you know what they put in? That isn't even getting to the pipes that the water goes to, to get to your house.

Why are people so fearful of fluoride when there are soooo many other chemicals in your tap water.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:10 PM
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i feel sorry for U. cos U did not get it! fluoride in ALL THINGS today are not there to kill U but to made U stupid and week... U are on wrong path... Your choice( or may be U cant judge the truth anymore)



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:13 PM
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ZakOlongapo
i feel sorry for U. cos U did not get it! fluoride in ALL THINGS today are not there to kill U but to made U stupid and week... U are on wrong path... Your choice( or may be U cant judge the truth anymore)

Passive aggressive personal attack aside.
Prepare to be scared! Not really, but I just thought I would show that fluoride is ALL around you.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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U are silly now( to much chemicals i guess)
did i say in water? water only? or something stupid like that? no...
i did not.... what about FOOD, VACCINATIONS, MILLIONS OF DIFFREND PILLS AND MEDICINE IN GENERAL>>> common

i am not talking about one poison in small bit but about all the poisons in all U consume and use every F@@@@@G DAY. do U want them all together still call harmless? then U are out

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posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:23 PM
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ZakOlongapo
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U are silly now( to much chemicals i guess)
did i say in water? water only? or something stupid like that? no...
i did not.... what about FOOD, VACCINATIONS, MILLIONS OF DIFFREND PILLS AND MEDICINE IN GENERAL>>> common

i am not talking about one poison in small bit but about all the poisons. do U want them all together still call harmless? then U are out

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No, you didn't say anything stupid like that...that's why I gave you that link to look over....
It was about food. Fluoride in food. Not water. Food.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:27 PM
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So far, in VoidHawks video, the purple shirt guy is talking about the dangers of fluoride...but nothing to do about the dangers of water fluoridation...only about raw water with naturally occurring fluoride. No one is disputing that. Lots of fear, no facts about this subject.

Now he's talking about how there should be honest science and how the public can't lose anymore trust in politicians after talking about how great Obama is going to be....

VOIDHAWK!!

What color shirt is the man/woman wearing so I can zoom forward to them!?

This guy is all over the place without actually saying anything.



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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reed my before post again cos i edit it... i think U need to study a bit more and open your eyes( awake up)... or just continue what ever U want...
we all die one day



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