The Zimmerman Trial

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Team Zimmerman would have exposed the evidence by now.

Team Zimmerman has been blocked by the judge from bringing forth evidence of Martins racism and drug use and fights .... even though Team Martin is allowed to use five 911 calls Zimmerman used over the past years while serving on neighborhood watch.

are they using the Zimmermans woman beating track records as well? or Police beating? or resisting arrest? they should because it shows his character..Hes too violent

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Crazy-ass cracker. Right in line with Martins language that he tweeted ...
So it wasn't a one time slip of the tongue ...

Daily Caller Obtains Trayvon Martins Tweets

Martin tweeted under the handle “NO_LIMIT_NIGGA,” an account that was closed shortly after his death.

Trayvon Martin Tweets

edit on 6/27/2013 by FlyersFan because: fixed link

Are you of the opinion that Martin's use of this twitter handle is absolutely identical to a white person screaming that word into the face of a black person?

Amusingly, you probably are.

reply to post by Baddguy


To be fair, the cop beating was due to the fact that it was an off duty cop in a bar. Who didn't identify himself and was harassing George's buddy.

Originally posted by IvanAstikov
I don't understand why anyone would think she was supposed to be a "star witness."

Because she was actually speaking to Martin when he died.
And because the prosecution has used her statements as a major cornerstone of it's case.

Originally posted by dudeman351
reply to post by Baddguy

 

To be fair, the cop beating was due to the fact that it was an off duty cop in a bar. Who didn't identify himself and was harassing George's buddy.

so he has a history of trying to take matters into his own hands....i understand...

Originally posted by dudeman351
reply to post by Baddguy

 

To be fair, the cop beating was due to the fact that it was an off duty cop in a bar. Who didn't identify himself and was harassing George's buddy.

Think about that. George went up to a larger stranger and got right in his face over something George believed was wrong. That was before he'd spent 18 months training at a well regarded fighting gym and done a bit of freelance "security" work at private parties.

Originally posted by Baddguy
are they using the Zimmermans woman beating track records as well? or Police beating? or resisting arrest? they should because it shows his character..Hes too violent

Either it's all important or none of it is.
Either only the events of that evening matter, or the personalities of both Martin and Zimmerman matter.
For it to be accurate it's all ... or none. Not bits and pieces.

Originally posted by JuniorDisco
Are you of the opinion that Martin's use of this twitter handle is absolutely identical to a white person screaming that word into the face of a black person?

Martin used racial slurs right up to the instant he died. His racial slurs are just as obnoxious and pathetic as the 'n' word racial slur. Racist is racist. Your wanting to give him a free pass because his grandpappy may have been discriminated against or because his great great grandpappy may have been a slave .. that's absurd.

Amusingly, you probably are.

Biased, you probably are.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by IvanAstikov

 

He also texted pictures of drugs, guns, and sent texts about getting into fights. Was caught with burglary tools and jewelry, and I believe assaulted a bus driver.

Ironically Zimmerman does in fact have a documented criminal past involving charges for resisting a law enforcement officer and even battery of an officer. There's his well documented violence issues with his ex-fiance also.

Originally posted by IvanAstikov

Originally posted by dudeman351
reply to post by Baddguy

 

To be fair, the cop beating was due to the fact that it was an off duty cop in a bar. Who didn't identify himself and was harassing George's buddy.

Think about that. George went up to a larger stranger and got right in his face over something George believed was wrong. That was before he'd spent 18 months training at a well regarded fighting gym and done a bit of freelance "security" work at private parties.

First off he was on even ground in that instance. Secondly you ever been sucker punched? When thug life punched him and broke his nose, Zimmerman couldn't see anything but white for a few seconds at least. Plenty of time for the punk to just start wailing on him and kick his ass.

Originally posted by Baddguy
so he has a history of trying to take matters into his own hands....i understand...

Yep. Zimmerman has a violent past. Martin does too.
So either both backgrounds should be included ... or neither.
Both backgrounds are relevant .. or neither. IMHO

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by IvanAstikov
I don't understand why anyone would think she was supposed to be a "star witness."

Because she was actually speaking to Martin when he died.

I'm sure you mean "before" he died

Originally posted by FlyersFan
And because the prosecution has used her statements as a major cornerstone of it's case.

Zimmerman's own testimony, the re-enactment vid and the nen and 9/11 calls are the cornerstones. In how many other cases are the prosecution lucky enough to get a running commentary of a defendant's actions prior to killing someone?

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i agree...use the stupid teens racial slurs/ drug use and wanna be gangster pics vs the crazed grown woman/off duty cop beating, arrest resisting vigilante history... lets see who will win

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by JuniorDisco
Are you of the opinion that Martin's use of this twitter handle is absolutely identical to a white person screaming that word into the face of a black person?

Martin used racial slurs right up to the instant he died. His racial slurs are just as obnoxious and pathetic as the 'n' word racial slur. Racist is racist. Your wanting to give him a free pass because his grandpappy may have been discriminated against or because his great great grandpappy may have been a slave .. that's absurd.

Amusingly, you probably are.

Biased, you probably are.

Answer the question.

Are you of the opinion that Martin's use of this twitter handle is absolutely identical to a white person screaming that word into the face of a black person?

Because if you aren't then suddenly your simplistic rendering of "racist is racist" isn't quite as obvious, is it? And you might have to admit that there are degrees of prejudicial effect based, yes, in part on the things that happened to Martin's forebears. (Which I'm not at all surprised you are so keen to minimise).

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There you go again with your wealth of knowledge on George Zimmerman and his personal life that you derived from the one-sided media circus.

Originally posted by JuniorDisco

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by IvanAstikov

 

He also texted pictures of drugs, guns, and sent texts about getting into fights. Was caught with burglary tools and jewelry, and I believe assaulted a bus driver.

Ironically Zimmerman does in fact have a documented criminal past involving charges for resisting a law enforcement officer and even battery of an officer. There's his well documented violence issues with his ex-fiance also.

Apparently none of the charges stuck, because he got his concealed carry permit. Battery on a LEO is a felony and DV is grounds to be denied a firearm. So if he can buy a gun and get a permit he wasn't convicted on any charges.

Originally posted by IvanAstikov
I'm sure you mean "before" he died

She said she was on the phone when he got shot. So I'd say that's WHILE he died.
But of course her statements keep changing so it's hard to keep up with ...

Zimmerman's own testimony, the re-enactment vid and the nen and 9/11 calls are the cornerstones.

The prosecution has put this woman forth as a cornerstone.
If you don't like it .. take it up with them.

reply to post by JuniorDisco

Racist is racist. Your continued free pass to Martins racism because his ancestors MAY have had racial things happen is absurd. His racism was evident right up to the point of death. Literally, his last words on earth were racial slurs ... 'crazy ass cracker'. His social media was steeped in racism and bigotry (and drug use and thuggery). And yes, his continued use of racial slurs over and over and over and over do indeed equal a white person saying the 'n' word. There is no good excuse for his behavior and his language. None.

Originally posted by dudeman351

Originally posted by JuniorDisco

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by IvanAstikov

 

He also texted pictures of drugs, guns, and sent texts about getting into fights. Was caught with burglary tools and jewelry, and I believe assaulted a bus driver.

Ironically Zimmerman does in fact have a documented criminal past involving charges for resisting a law enforcement officer and even battery of an officer. There's his well documented violence issues with his ex-fiance also.

Apparently none of the charges stuck, because he got his concealed carry permit. Battery on a LEO is a felony and DV is grounds to be denied a firearm. So if he can buy a gun and get a permit he wasn't convicted on any charges.

And Trayvon Martin was?

Originally posted by TeflonBear
reply to post by IvanAstikov

 

There you go again with your wealth of knowledge on George Zimmerman and his personal life that you derived from the one-sided media circus.

Actually that stuff is a matter of record. And the only media circus I see is the one that insists that a misguided teenager was the black Al Capone.