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Originally posted by Helious
Originally posted by TokiTheDestroyer
reply to post by Helious
Actually, that falls on you.
Prove to me why they don't deserve to have children.
Oh, wait...............YOU CAN'T
edit on 5/30/13 by TokiTheDestroyer because: (no reason given)
Sure I can, because they can't produce them. Unless they beg, petition and blowhorn the state to ALLOW them to do it. Sure, thats what free people do, beg the state to allow them to do something because they really deserve it.
Originally posted by TokiTheDestroyer
reply to post by Helious
Bigoted non-answer. Try again.
Destroyer of words, meet The Destroyer.
Originally posted by snowspirit
Originally posted by Helious
Originally posted by TokiTheDestroyer
reply to post by Helious
Actually, that falls on you.
Prove to me why they don't deserve to have children.
Oh, wait...............YOU CAN'T
edit on 5/30/13 by TokiTheDestroyer because: (no reason given)
Sure I can, because they can't produce them. Unless they beg, petition and blowhorn the state to ALLOW them to do it. Sure, thats what free people do, beg the state to allow them to do something because they really deserve it.
That only applies to one gender. Gay women only need a sperm doner or bank. And to still be of a fertile age.
Originally posted by Helious
Great for you. Homosexual couples have no rights to children. None at all. Please explain why they do.....
Humans in general should all be treated as equals, that has absolutely no bearing on who is fit to raise children, it only covers individual adults. You are misinformed, a bleeding heart and are thinking with the wrong part of your body.
Your idea of utopia not withstanding, show me legal, factual or credible reasons why it is ok to dish out kids to gay couples who could not ever have them naturally. Then, please further explain in detail how that may effect the child and what studies have been done to confirm it will cause no damage. Thanks.
The whole utopia thing sounds great though, I agree, I wish I would have been alive for woodstock, I could use more hugs..........edit on 30-5-2013 by Helious because: (no reason given)
Scroll up, you haven't provided any basis at all for your argument besides calling me names.
Originally posted by TokiTheDestroyer
Originally posted by Helious
Great for you. Homosexual couples have no rights to children. None at all. Please explain why they do.....
Humans in general should all be treated as equals, that has absolutely no bearing on who is fit to raise children, it only covers individual adults. You are misinformed, a bleeding heart and are thinking with the wrong part of your body.
Your idea of utopia not withstanding, show me legal, factual or credible reasons why it is ok to dish out kids to gay couples who could not ever have them naturally. Then, please further explain in detail how that may effect the child and what studies have been done to confirm it will cause no damage. Thanks.
The whole utopia thing sounds great though, I agree, I wish I would have been alive for woodstock, I could use more hugs..........edit on 30-5-2013 by Helious because: (no reason given)
Why does it fall on me to provide the evidence to support this claim, if you honestly want me to take you seriously you had better come up with something other than here-say, conjecture and mild personal attacks.
I can not provide you with any of this just as you can not provide me with any, because there isn't any evidence to support either of my claims, I'm just possess the common sense and rational to determine that this is an idiotic debate deeply rooted in peoples irrational fear of what they do not understand or know. Your views are outdated, gay people make fine parents, try and keep up.
Originally posted by Helious
We would all like the world to be a better place, I'll be first in line for that when it comes but the reality is that gay rights start and end with adults and children that were born into this world between a man and woman have no business with homosexual couples because the state said it's ok. That's not validation in most people eyes. Take a look at the world around you, it's not a good argument to say because the government said it is ok then it is rightfully, morally and divinely justified.edit on 30-5-2013 by Helious because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by surfin4
Love how mainly americans seem to keep sticking the knife into african americans by likening there plight to sexual perverts.......thats not passive racist at all!
Originally posted by surfin4
Love how mainly americans seem to keep sticking the knife into african americans by likening there plight to sexual perverts.......thats not passive racist at all!
Originally posted by surfin4
Love how mainly americans seem to keep sticking the knife into african americans by likening there plight to sexual perverts.......thats not passive racist at all!
Originally posted by brandiwine14
I didn't use to be against gays but lately I've been giving it some serious consideration.
Not only gays commit suicide, not only gay people are ostracized by their families and left homeless. It should be as equally sad when a gay human offs the self just as a straight person again it should be as sad when either is left homeless. It should be as sad when either are murdered because we all know that when one murders they do so with hate and malice in their heart.
So why is it only a "hate crime" when its committed against gays? Why is it not as important to bring the murderer to justice?
I'm tired of it. I was for equal everything, marriage and adoption. I once got in a fight at a Dennys sticking up for my gay friend, I once would have walked for equal rights for you all..... not no more.
Until gays think my straight family is as important as theirs as loving and as good. Until you all feel anything for anyone other than yourselves and you gay community. Until you get just as outraged by the murder of a straight man as you do a gay one and start demanding that humans in general be better to everyone and not just cater to you... well until then I'm going to stop caring about what the hell you guys are going through too.
The world doesn't revolve around gays.
Originally posted by WaterBottle
People that hate gay people are simply not very intelligent.
Bigotry is associated with low IQ's.