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Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by markosity1973
Dear markosity1973,
Maybe it's just a melancholy time of night, but I'm really sad. Sad for the loss of a fine young life to the power of darkness and evil.
Sad that your attempt to bring the thread back on track was so thoroughly ignored.
And sad that this can't even be discussed without name calling and insults, instead of trying to reach understanding and possible solutions.
I know that darkness and evil do not win in the end, but in the meantime it's sometimes pretty tough.
I'll talk with anyone if they want to, but I won't yell.
With respect,
Charles1952
Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Sad yet true, as i mentioned in the other topic for being relatively young (early twenties) i have gone through what most, some, any, consider 'Tragic life' all because of my Sexuality, i wont go into details because others have had same, similar, and worse experiences,
So, to all of those who do not like gay people. Consider this, we are the product of straight families. Look and see the damage your rejection, and hatred does to us
A school friend of mine took his life beccause he was gay. (R.I.P Phillip, I will always keep up the fight for equality in memory of you) I have known too many other gay people senselessly die through suicide as well.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by Darth_Prime and markosity1973
Markosity1973, I really like your idea of highlighting the suffering that gays face. Perhaps it will show our common humanity and allow us to find the sympathy and empathy which we may have lost.
With respect,
Charles1952
Originally posted by alfa1
So, to all of those who do not like gay people. Consider this, we are the product of straight families. Look and see the damage your rejection, and hatred does to us
A school friend of mine took his life beccause he was gay. (R.I.P Phillip, I will always keep up the fight for equality in memory of you) I have known too many other gay people senselessly die through suicide as well.
Does your argument work for pedophiles as well?
Some years back it emerged one of the guys at a company I used to work for took his own life because of that reason.
And I suppose I could give other examples as well... but the more general point you seem to be making is that gays have to be accepted because the hurt causes them to suicide, then
WHY
does that exame same argument not work for other groups of people that you hate?
Originally posted by MadMax7
People take their life because they are fat, lonely, broke, got pimples, laughed at......
Being homosexual is not unique to suicide occurring. Hate has nothing to do with it, it's mainly dissatisfaction with themselves inside. Homosexual committing suicide do it for the same reasons people who have lost limbs do.... no wait, those who have lost limbs and therefore careers and mobility still get on with life with a smile don't they...!
So what the homosexuals problem? Internal!
Whats the broke persons problem? Internal
Whats the lonely persons problem? Internal
Don't go blaming others for your dysfunction and use that as a cop out.
Originally posted by markosity1973
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Phillip, you were just 16 but in your short life you shone brightly. You were the captain of our school's rugby team and the dux of our school. You will always be remembered by me for who you were, a kind decent person and the best of friends. If only I had known you were gay before you took your life.....
Stephen. You were only 17 but the whole school mourned when you left us. Even though I never knew you personally, you were so liked by so many, Those who vilified you and drove you to take your life live with the shame to this day.edit on 30-5-2013 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wiser3
Originally posted by markosity1973
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Phillip, you were just 16 but in your short life you shone brightly. You were the captain of our school's rugby team and the dux of our school. You will always be remembered by me for who you were, a kind decent person and the best of friends. If only I had known you were gay before you took your life.....
Stephen. You were only 17 but the whole school mourned when you left us. Even though I never knew you personally, you were so liked by so many, Those who vilified you and drove you to take your life live with the shame to this day.edit on 30-5-2013 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)
Mike. A friend I lost when he was 23, many years ago but still alive in my memory! I miss you Mike!
Andre. A loving, laughing friend, gone at just 19!
Hennie. At 36 he took his life just two years ago.
Sorry I can't go on, it's just too upsetting when I sit and think of all the friends I have lost due to hatred, I didn't think it would affect me this much at 54! Thank you for this opportunity though!edit on 31/5/13 by wiser3 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by kudegras
Heres my 5c worth, everyone should be entitled to live as they see fit provided that nothing they do in any way adversely affects the life of another.
So in that sense, Gay people should be allowed to marry. I must admit I have had to change my view as I have always had homophobic tendencies, more from a lack of understanding than for any other reason.
I have a seventeen year old daughter who has a number of gay friends, she also has a boyfriend. It seems the youth of today have a far more liberal and accepting mindset than my generation. It is through long talks with her regarding this subject that I have changed my views. That is a very sad clip, and you can change the person and the situation with many other minorities throughout the world that have taken their own lives because of the small mindedness of some people. Lets hope they find peace in the next world.
Originally posted by Helious
reply to post by markosity1973
You know what, I shouldn't of been in this thread any way and I know better. disregard my posts as it pertains to replys, I'm leaving this thread and not coming back, that goes for any other threads that resemble this. I'm sorry I posted in the first place, carry on.