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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by markosity1973
Not another 'Gay' thread.
We should give them their own Island... this way they can do as they wish on it without bothering others...
And we wont need to see anymore 'gay' threads on ATS!
It's not even an ATS topic...
Originally posted by boymonkey74
ask yourselves would Jesus say the same or would he want us all to try and make sure this doesn't happen through love, acceptance and understanding?.
Funny how quickly you back away from your previous statement.
What you're saying there, is that gay people have more mental issues than straight people. Homosexuality is a confusion, a disorientation, and already indicative of poor mental health. Homosexuality is most likely a "symptom" of an underlying mental imbalance.
Originally posted by SQUEALER
Originally posted by markosity1973
A school friend of mine took his life beccause he was gay. (R.I.P Phillip, I will always keep up the fight for equality in memory of you) I have known too many other gay people senselessly die through suicide as well.
numbers than we should be.
About 30,000 people commit suicide every year in the US. So, 1 of them was gay. There's no way to know why the gay person committed suicide. It could be health related, it could be economic woes, it could be mental health issues, it could be all sorts of things. Suicide is a problem in the world as a whole, especially Japan, where people feel inadequate if they are not up to standard meeting the high quality demands of the Japanese culture.
Gay and suicide have no significant statistical connection.
Originally posted by surfin4
reply to post by mOjOm
First off calling them sexual perverts is not name calling its dictionary definition .....i believe the word deviant is also used but it means the same thing, to link unnatural perversions to a natural race of people is racist
........as for feminism its interesting you make that link because feminism was the window they used to change peoples opinions.......anybody who believes women were behind feminism well good luck to you, the start of the industrial revolution those factories needed filling , if they turned around to the men and said we want your wives mothers and daughters to become wage slaves the men would have handed there heads back to them, but they were smart they planted the seed and watered it and watched it grow, they pushed single parent families, pushed consumerism , pushed abortion......i mean all of these things go against whats good for the individual and whats good for society, but they suit the divide and control strategy of the 1%........the sad thing is people can be conditioned to staggering degrees of stupidity where they end up getting there morals from ricky lake shows lolz.
Originally posted by tangonine
I'm in the Individual Liberty bucket. Do whatever you want: be gay, be straight, do drugs, don't do drugs, eat rocks, don't eat rocks.
All I ask is that people take responsibility for the choices they make. Don't smoke 2 packs a day and expect me to pay for your lung cancer treatment: that crap is on you, brother. Drink a 5th of vodka for breakfast? Don't even ask to get on the liver transplant list. Eat at Golden Corral 5 nights a week? Good luck with the heart attack.
You bought it, you own it.
As long as you don't infringe upon my rights, you can run around in a carmel covered tutu singing show tunes until midnight for all I care. Knock yourself out. Freedom is freedom to choose. As long as it doesn't harm anyone, go crazy.
Oh and I'm white. Christian. Middle aged. Vote republican. Own guns. Like football. Drink beer. Stereotype as you see fit. That's your right, too. I wasn't placed here to judge anyone. I was placed here to take the best care of those within my sphere of influence that I can; and make their lives as rewarding and full as possible.
I wore a uniform for some years, and took an oath several times to protect. I may think what you're doing is stupid, but I'll kit up and hold the line to make sure you have the freedom to be as stupid as you want.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
To deny that homosexuals face a much different social climate than straight people in asinine. Look at your posts. They are a fine example. You compare them to goats. To parasites. to the mentally ill.
Because they are the same. Just because people like you make life harder for them, does not make them worthy of less rights.
Why are you comparing them to heterosexuals then?
This is a pretty sad and desperate attempt to remove yourself from your earlier comment. you said: "Gay and suicide have no significant statistical connection.". You are the one that separated them. And you were proven foolish in doing so.
If they were similar to heterosexuals, why would we even need a separate word "homosexuals"?
At what point do you accept one group of people as being different from another group, and why do you want to make them equal, especially when they are not?
No, you are confusing yourself by saying "they should be treated differently because they are treated differently".
This is the paradox. The tension between being different and being the same.
And you were talking about other not being clear of mind?
Make up you mind, whether you want to be the same or different.
No need to have it both ways. Thats two threads, and twice Ive shown your intellectual dishonesty for what it is.
I only pointed out other different things that are similar in their differences. You can't have it both ways.
Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Obliged for a classy response, what Football team do you fancy?
i've always said, we have the freedom to believe what we want, when it begins to cross into discrimination and denying rights and freedoms based solely on Sexuality, Religion, Race Etc is when it needs to be addressed
Originally posted by markosity1973
Furthermore, if you had a child, and they killed themselves, how would it feel? What would you prefer, a child that is alive and gay, or dead because you dislike gays so much it would be less embarassing.
Where is your humanity?
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
-- Revelation 20:14
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
-- Revelation 9:6