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Originally posted by GrandStrategy
Originally posted by vagabondrobb
reply to post by paratus
Yes, apologies, you are correct. There is another video (Which got removed from it's source) where the same man exclaims Allah Akbar (God is great)..
I myself have spent almost a year with London Islamists, while making a film for the BBC - My Brother the Islamist..
I know it when I see it.
My Step brother was recently sent to prison for planning terrorist offences, so it's all very close to home for me.
Good documentary. Shame how that worked out, are you still in touch?
It really is amazing how stupid the British have let themselves become. That entire country is a complete surveillance society, people can't even defend themselves, and while a dude gets his head hacked off in broad daylight the only thing bystanders can do is sit and watch. Pathetic.
It's like they got every male Englishmen on a straight drip of estrogen. The men over there..... my god.... they all wear panties....
And everyone else in England is PC to the bone. Hilarious to read the posts in this thread. Especially the people saying that the guy did this because he is a black Muslim, who feels like an outcast because white people don't like him.... What the hell? He just hacked a dudes head off and it's the white males of England who are responsible for that? You guys have no original thought at all, I've heard the same stupid argument come out of every mentally challenged politicians mouth before all of you said it. You're all just parrots. And you think you're safer without the ability to defend yourself.
What a sad little country England is....
Originally posted by TheMagus
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by TheMagus
My main concern is how much people are believing as soon as they hear it, then switching their belief once they hear something more suitable to their real of perceived normality so to speak.
Indeed, the "sane" do love their scapegoats and their Two Minutes Hate.
much super-strength lager will be quaffed tonight, Methinks
From the very beginning I have been rather on the fence.
that is as it should be, we are here to promote "Insanity" and "Unreason", after all.
Going on forward due to data compiled by those you speak of we shall point out a few things.
Proceed with confidence, The C.U.T. has your back
Thunder and lightning here, if I disappear my power went out
good to know, As Sister Natalia (First Maenad) would be quite cross if I mobilized Her and her Murder of Crows due to a misunderstanding. should an attack be carried out upon Your Person under cover of darkness I Am confident that a single swing of your Morningstar will expedite the matter promptly, along with the adjacent 20 city blocks.
Originally posted by smurfy
Quite frankly, that's bollocks, what happened here was not a war zone, and these guys knew they had the upper hand on a single individual,
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by ThinkYouSpeak
I don't know about that.
I couldn't think of a better way to spark some anti-muslim sentiment amongst unemployed British youth.
Think about it, a regular military man wearing a charity T-shirt is hacked to death in the middle of the street in broad day light by 2 middle eastern people chanting on about Allah.
All the needed was a dead puppy and an old aged pensioner stuck in the boot of the car they'd have offended most demographics.
As for the financial hubs, comms and electricity hubs im not talking about internal workers.
If you wanted to destroy a nation and bring it to its knee's, you had a couple of car bombs and a massive truck bomb what would you hit?
a market full of innocent people or a electricity plant / financial centre?
Why did the 'supposid' terrorists attack the WTC/Pentagon on 911 and not a nuclear/power plant or wall street?
Originally posted by Black_Fox
The Son of Sam!
How is this relevant?
Well,Berkowitz was indicted for eight shooting incidents. Berkowitz confessed to all of them and claimed that he was commanded to kill by a demon that possessed his neighbor's dog.
Thats right,a DOG.told him to kill.
And if a man can kill so many,based on his personal belief a demon dog told him to,why is there a need to suddenly fear muslims?
It was 1 person,all be it tragic and sad,it was one.
And all because 2 mentally unstable people decided to commit murder.
They try to justifu the murders any way the want,but in the end,its not religion,nor politics.
It's evil people doing evil things.
Its up to people from this point forward to NOT fan the flames of fear and hate,only to make matters worse.
Those 2 people dont represent all muslims,or even humans for that matter,
Nothing made these men do it,outside of their own personal choice.
Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
reply to post by Silcone Synapse
Are you serious?
The UK is much safer than crazy America. I'd rather live permanently in the UK than in the US. It is a statistical fact that the more guns that are available, the more gun-related incidents there will be. We'd have more attacks, more suicides, more murders.
Personally, I've never felt the need to carry a deadly weapon. Legalizing guns in the UK would only lead to a mini-arms race. I've escaped a couple of knife-point robberies without the use of a gun, thank you very much - we don't want to turn into Wild West "Merica.
Originally posted by ThinkYouSpeak
There is no end-all-be-all method for causing terror or advancing some sort of self righteous political/religious act of violence.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
You have to be kidding? People in UK don't have guns so they use machetes and hack each other up in a most rude and bizarre fashion. And you think it's better why?
Originally posted by Rocker2013
Okay, this is starting to look a little more concerning now...
Nick Raynsford MP for Greenwich and Woolwich is telling LBC that he has spoken to a senior officer at the nearby barracks and the victim is a serving soldier.
I know this is concerning from a national security standpoint if this does turn out to be religiously motivated terrorism, but I am actually more scared of the backlash against this and the potential for our country to lurch to the extreme right as a result of it.
Or are we forgeting the butchering of millions of muslims by christians
The Moors were the medieval Muslim inhabitants of Morocco, western Algeria, Western Sahara, Mauritania, the Iberian Peninsula, Septimania, Sicily and Malta. The Moors called their Iberian territory Al-Andalus, an area comprising Gibraltar, much of what is now Spain and Portugal, and part of France. There was also a Moorish presence in present-day southern Italy after they occupied Mazara in 827 until their last settlement of Lucera was destroyed in 1300. The religious difference of the Moorish Muslims led to a centuries-long conflict with the Christian kingdoms of Europe called the Reconquista. The Fall of Granada in 1492 saw the end of the Muslim rule in Iberia.
With enormous energy, the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed's death. They were extremely successful. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt—once the most heavily Christian areas in the world—quickly succumbed. By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul. The old Roman Empire, known to modern historians as the Byzantine Empire, was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East.
That is what gave birth to the Crusades. They were not the brainchild of an ambitious pope or rapacious knights but a response to more than four centuries of conquests in which Muslims had already captured two-thirds of the old Christian world. At some point, Christianity as a faith and a culture had to defend itself or be subsumed by Islam. The Crusades were that defense.
Pope Urban II called upon the knights of Christendom to push back the conquests of Islam at the Council of Clermont in 1095. The response was tremendous. Many thousands of warriors took the vow of the cross and prepared for war. Why did they do it? The answer to that question has been badly misunderstood. In the wake of the Enlightenment, it was usually asserted that Crusaders were merely lacklands and ne'er-do-wells
During the past two decades, computer-assisted charter studies have demolished that contrivance. Scholars have discovered that crusading knights were generally wealthy men with plenty of their own land in Europe. Nevertheless, they willingly gave up everything to undertake the holy mission. Crusading was not cheap. Even wealthy lords could easily impoverish themselves and their families by joining a Crusade. They did so not because they expected material wealth (which many of them had already) but because they hoped to store up treasure where rust and moth could not corrupt
The second goal was the liberation of Jerusalem and the other places made holy by the life of Christ. The word crusade is modern. Medieval Crusaders saw themselves as pilgrims, performing acts of righteousness on their way to the Holy Sepulcher. The Crusade indulgence they received was canonically related to the pilgrimage indulgence
The reconquest of Jerusalem, therefore, was not colonialism but an act of restoration and an open declaration of one's love of God.
Originally posted by aravoth
reply to post by arollingstone
Self loathing? Do you moonlight as a shrink or something? All you can do is call me a self loathing xenophobe? Not surprising, because that's all you got. Reminds of of how every time someone speaks the truth about Obama, they get called a racist. Doesn't take a lot of grey matter to call a person a xenophobe, it does take a lot to re-evaluate the situation you are in, and how you got there.
Besides, you said it yourself, they rushed in to stop someone from desecrating a corpse, they did not rush in to save a life. How courageous, that out of a crowd of people, only a few ran in, but only after it was all over..