reply to post by nwtrucker
In response to both both your posts. First of all, it is pointless and futile to attack each other. if you disagree fine...I disagree with you...but
Your point about the USA not invading Britain...of course thats true. But let me ask you. Did the British people ask for US bases to be planted in the
UK? No, of course not...did the people of any country ask for US bases? No. Here is an example...Greenham Common in the UK.
On 12 December 1982, 30,000 women held hands around the 6 miles (9.7 km) perimeter of the base, in protest against the decision to site American
cruise missiles there...The protest ended in the year 2000.
So no, the people do not want American bases or missiles on their land...The reality is the people have very little say over what their governments
allow..because as I already stated..the American model of "democracy" is the choice of two capitalist political parties..and all western governments
have the same form of false democracy..so voting makes no difference..So called democracy is as entrenched as the Communism in China, you cannot vote
to change it.
Also bear in mind 30,000 women is a significant number of protesters, and most people object but do not have the will or time to protest, so think
about that number of women who actually felt so angry about it that they camped at the site for almost 20 years, and yes the number fluctuated over
time but the initial protests were 30,000.
The reason the USA doesn't invade every country, is simply because they don't need to. Do you think the UK population wants a listening dome in the
south of England, infiltrating private phone calls and emails etc, And not because everyone has something to hide, but because it is human nature to
want to have privacy..didnt the USA and the west fight communism in order to protect us from a police state and big brother...or cant you recall, east
Germany and Stalin???. DUH.
No, the USA already have so much power, that no western government in their right mind would dare refuse them access.
When the God Father makes you an offer you cant refuse, you don't refuse. You obviously do not inhabit the same universe as i do.
Also when George W made his statements..they were aimed at the world but also the people. Back inthe 60's there were protests against the Vietnam
war..there were musicians who sang protest songs..Notice how everyone stayed quiet over the invasions of the middle east. People stayed quiet because
they were scared 5h17le55 to open their mouths and voice their opinions..that ought to tell you something pretty profound about your freedom of
speech, . and that's in the land of the free, remember, the land of the free. Sure 10..15 years later maybe people speak up hear and there, but look
at the difference...People were and still are afraid to say things are not right. Its safer to say " I love the military, I back them all the way
100%...I'm a true patriot..I question nothing..." its actually the smart thing to say...I don't blame people for saying it...but its about as genuine
as all those North Koreans who cry when the great leader died. It's all done out of fear. Patriotism induced by fear is not patriotism...it's actually
a state of perpetual fear..and its terrifying to live under a state of fear...but lets look at North Korea instead of looking in the mirror.
For what it's worth I understand governments and empire building..I get it..it's the way the world and civilizations work and have always worked..I am
not a leftist...or right winger...Im a realist..and call a spade a spade...I cannot be bothered arguing with fools who think an invading army is
protecting the homeland..fools who think conquered countries should be thankful for being conquered hahaha...its naive and childish to think such
ridiculous things...the USA is an empire, and like all empires the nature of invading and spreading it's influence is not going to be welcomed in
other countries...DUH. But if your American why should you care who likes you??? Seriously, I dont get why you care or try to insist your saving the
world...Accept what you are, embrace it...but this continual denial is infantile. Its like these women on shows like Maury...they admit to sleeping
with dozens of guys and when someone in the audience calls them a hoe they go ballistic.. don't call me a hoe..i ant no hoe..seriously...the kind of
women who wear white on their wedding day...In denial of what they are...Your an empire..you invade to take resources and to expand...deal with it...
Did Darth Vader or the emperor go around looking for approval hahahaha...The only irony is I was brought up on Starwars and American pop culture,
which always portrayed a distinction between evil empires and the good guys..funny how it all turned out...IRONIC MUCH.
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