Originally posted by dogstar23
such threads don't even belong under "religion" because I believe the intent is for religion-related topics encompassing conspiracy, or hidden knowledge.

Not so.
The definition at the top of each thread in that forum is "Discuss all things spiritual and share your own faith-based experiences".
The limitation to "conspiracy" is not there.
On the other hand, the "Conspiracy in Religion" forum does have that limitation, which is why threads have frequently been shifted from that forum to the "Religion & Theology" forum,

Originally posted by winofiend
Well, there does seem to be a lot more recent

"Look at me I'm so happy and god loves you too!" threads that do nothing but let everyone know how awesome jesus was..

they're annoying.

Not so much a discussion as a comment on their own faith and some wishy washy nonsense about how groovy it is to worship imaginary things.

Funny, you can't discuss any other topics that have such a delusional affect on the mind.. hrmph.

The thing is, if you ignore them they will keep increasing.
I used to belong to a site that was something special, now its like a fundamentalist revival meeting.
Not against religion, if you need an adult version of Santa thats your business, but religion, be it Christianity or
something else, tends to turn its beleivers into zombies, who think nothing of bothering strangers about joining up. This is because if you beleive, its a confirmation for them.
I used to go to a fundamentalist church, until I got big enough to tell my parents "NO".
Anyway, its a problem, you can't censor them, but if you ignore them they will destroy yet another great site
with their propaganda.
On this other site there was the occasional "rapture" or "jesus saves", bout ten years ago. Now its every other thread.
In thirty years these people will still be talking about the "rapture"(which is not in the bible, totally made up_),
They were talking about it when I was young, and I am 56 yrs old.
Everybody has been a canidate for the antichrist, from prince charles to nixon to bush to Saddam to obama
to the flavor of the week.
What is really scary, not as bad as Muslims

You know you don't have to read the jesus god threads.It is obvious your just whining.It isnt as if you have to read every thread on ats.If a thread is written you don't like - don't read it.I'm sure scince you can write you can read as well.So why make a thread whining about anothers thread?Please stop whining.

If I had my way I would round everyone up who says they are religious put them on a single island, make sure they have no weapons of mass destruction just swords, make sure they can not escape and then let the rest of humanity thrive without all that nonsense.
Then after 10 years go back and clear all the bodies away (they have either killed each other off or have been raptured ) and move the Aussies back .

OP didn't you know that Jebus lovers think If they brainwash others to to their club they get Jebus cookies in heaven?

Mark Chapter 7 verse 23 "And behold the Jebus cookie is for thout only for the brainwashed who has destroyed rational thought in others"

If that wasn't in the Bible they could all stay in their own type of website where they all self flagellate together bashing off thinking of a blonde man with lovely hair.

OP'er, and all others who "hate and don't believe in imaginary Jesus"...

I have a question,

What if...

What if the world you lived in, the reality you lived in, was one where there was, in fact, an all powerful God?

No, no. Bear with me. I'm sure you've made points like this before, what-if style points.

So allow me to make one. What, you won't let me? Why is that? Haven't you made "what-if" style
points before to people? Oh, certainly you have. Try to remember. There you go...

So, now, since we've established that you find the usage of what-if style points acceptable.

I don't see why you can't allow me to make one.


So, then, What-if... the reality in which you lived? Not saying it's true! Just what if!

What if the reality you lived in had a God, an all powerful one? And he DID indeed have a Son?

And his Son was actually God in the Flesh?


Then, I ask you, what does that make you here?

What would that make you? Posting something like this. All of you, what, I ask again, would that make you!!


If I had to say, I'd say, if you're of an adult age, it makes you a liar. And also, against God.
In my What-if scenario... I'd have to say "Wuh oh" for you.



It's not us Christians who are mirror'ing what we're told (not real Christians). I learned everything I know about Jesus/God on my own.

Initially, anyway. After that, I did seek advice from others.

The one's who I've observed that have the most mirror'ing and replicating behavior, almost clone-like. Are Atheists/agnostics...

We have an excuse for replicating each other, Christians I mean, because our information comes from a (nearly) primary source, that being the Bible. It's only a book's long in length. So, you're going to hear the same stuff repeated.

But, what about agnostics/atheists? They spew the same "logical" reasons for there being no God that I've heard millions of times smoking pot and drinking beer with my spiteful buddies. I say spiteful, because that's typically what an atheist is, is spiteful. Arrogant, egotistical, and really damn sure that a few ideas they come up with while drinking/smoking pot, doing other drugs, are the end all of ideas.

It's so, just... very irritating... to watch people fall into disbelief of Jesus over some of the reasoning I hear discussed between you individuals.

"If God is all powerful, why would he let children starve, dude..."

"There's no God, man. Come on, THINK about it." <---- my favorite.


"God, Jesus and hell are just imaginary fairy tales that have been told to people for centuries to scare them into paying money to churches" lol... I love this one. While sometimes churches do use people for money, I love it how everyone who comes up with this one really believes we haven't heard it before, and also really seem to believe that they came up with it. Even though they heard it at a party and thought it was a really cool argument.

You people (atheists/agnostics) found your core beliefs from simple, contrived one liners that we've all heard a million times, and hold no ground.

Me? I came to the Bible second. When I say I was Saved, that doesn't mean a preacher or a missionary came to me and put his hand on my head and read scripture to me.

I was saved through nothing Biblical or Religious whatsoever.

How do I know you so well, atheists/agnostics? Why, because I used to be one!! I know exactly how we think.

You make decisions based on insufficient reasons. Oh, yes, yes you do. I know too well how you think.

For example "God lets children starve" therefore you make the decision of belief that "There can't be a God" <------ This, is NOT sufficient reasoning to make a decision, not for a scientist, not for a sturdy thinker, NOT AT ALL.

From years and years of being an atheist/agnostic and talking to atheists/agnostics, this is the best they can do.

Their argument will vary a bit from time to time, but it's all essentially the same. They provide no reasons that logically add up to a point where they should make a decision based on such reasons.

They always have to make a HUGE leap, they leave a huge void of logic between their "reasons" and their "decision".


You might say Christians do the same thing, SOME do. Not all. Many don't...
I do not.

I don't have any voids in logic in my reasoning to my decisions. Not in this sense.


For example. "I am reading from my Computer Monitor right now", therefore "my Computer monitor is real"

That is a valid conclusion. There is no inane logical jump out of nowhereland to a decision. I came to the decision that "my Computer monitor is real" based off a sound reason.

Likewise, "Jesus has spoken to my heart, and worked in my Life in many sure-fire ways. I have a relationship with Him, just like you do anyone" therefore "Jesus must be real" (plus many more points.)

This, is a sound logical conclusion.

Yours, are not. Try using my method, and observe your own logical fallacies and "drop offs".

Also, another 'What-If' scenario...


What-if God/Jesus were real?

Wouldn't that make ATS and all places relevant to the discussion of him?



Hm.




OP needs to get right with Jesus, and so do many of you.




OH YEA. you say you see this place quickly turning into a Christian haven.


BUT LOOK AT THE REPLIES. ONE OUT OF TEN PEOPLE HATE/DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS.


This is a downright HATE thread, it SPEWS with denial, the denial is obvious due to the fact that what the OP is saying isn't even REMOTELY true.

He uses a day, ONE day where there are three God threads, out of many days where there are NO Jesus/God threads (I know because I frequently visit the site) as an excuse to make these LIES up and spew this hatred of his.

The OP KNOWS that Jesus threads are not over-taking the site, as do any of you.

Which is the second biggest and most obvious reason that you are FULL OF IT.



This is proof that you are full of hatred, and in denial. Because you had to make this thread.


If nothing else, good job OP for re-affirming doubting Christians in the Lord.



Look at all this anti-God drivel on this thread, man.


What are you people? The scum of the freaking universe? There IS a God. Whether you argue about it for a billion years and come up with what you think are the best arguments of all time for a billion years straight it doesn't CHANGE


THE FACT



THAT



THERE



IS




A




GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!


EVER!!!! NOTHING YOU SAY OR THINK YOU BELIEVE WILL CHANGE THAT.



Finished.

No, no. I'm not finished.

Day after day I visit this site with the exact opposite idea of the OP. THIS is sooooo proof that this OP has an ulterior motive here.

DAY AFTER DAY I think "Dear Lord, the love of Jesus is lost on this site, and many other sites as well, I see so few Biblically accurate threads. It seems no one here, or hardly anyone, really loves or believes in the Real God, Jesus Christ."

This REPEATED thinking of mine for the last couple of years using ATS is just soooooooo proof that there is an ulterior motive to this thread.

Think about it, people! This OP ain't what it seems!

A question for you Christians to do with Heaven and Hell.

I accept Jebus (never gonna happen) and goto heaven but my 2 sons do not and end up in Hell, how can it be Heaven If I know my sons are burning?

I'm new here, but I have to say I don't like anyone continually pushing any unprovable dogmas as if they are 100% true. Be it Christian or whatever. Having a know-it-all attitude about the unknown is a turn off to me. And pushy know-it-all Christians are the worst. It's simple; theories are not fact and faith is not knowing. But for many Christians today they say they 'know', and as such they have no faith. They will say "I know I am going to heaven."... Please spare me the extremism and lack of faith.. I don't care what your book says, faith is not knowing. See, I don't consider know-it-all Christians as Christians, as they have no real faith, not when they think they know-it-all. I don't think Christ would approve of such religious spam and lack of faith. So what are they? Maybe there's a conspiracy here after all... That all said, maybe it would be good if we could create a personal block list so we don't have to see posts and comments from specific members.

Just click the red "(-)" icon next to the religion forums and problem solved.