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I notice they spray in front of the sun allot as if they are trying to block out its ray's.
Originally posted by smarterthanyou
reply to post by flyswatter
Look up the definition of compartmentalize, see if that helps.
Thanks for that link SmokingGun. That's a great website.
I feel bad for those working in the airline industry who feel responsible for what's going on and can't do anything about it.
you have that completely backwards
that is an excellent example of not only paranoia and ignorance on your behalf, but it also shows the extreme fear you feel should anyone break the chains of the programming installed in our minds to keep us in slavery to the controllers.
i am very skeptical about what your motives are for responding to this topic, chemtrails, and others i have seen 'you' on and, doing so, i am thinking that the topics that are being discredited using various established techniques
Originally posted by Z32Driver
reply to post by Phage
So what? You think rainwater is immune from picking up dust in the air as it falls?
Don't you recall (from the video) how he mentions that aluminum does not exist freely in our atmosphere? Its in our soil and crust but always bonded. Even 1 part ber billion is unusual in rainwatter and hes recorded much higher levels. Do you have free floating aluminum particles in your area?
Aluminium is the third most abundant element (after oxygen and silicon), and the most abundant metal, in the Earth's crust. It makes up about 8% by weight of the Earth's solid surface
despite its prevalence in the environment, aluminium salts are not known to be used by any form of life. In keeping with its pervasiveness, aluminium is well tolerated by plants and animals
Originally posted by 311DTOM
reply to post by InhaleExhale
Of course I have. I've also been watching the sky since I was a kid. And I sure don't remember contrails being as long and persistent that form into hazy clouds like today. Let alone the sheer number I've noticed recently.
Man, of all the subjects here I didn't figure this to be such a hot button issue.
And I sure don't remember contrails being as long and persistent that form into hazy clouds like today.
Because ther is no actual evidence - the so-called "whistleblowers" I have seen or read about are fakes IMO - I am an aircraft mechanic
I used to work in avionics. I am also very interested in weather. Since I understand what a contrail is and how they can form, I have an incredibly hard time looking at a picture of contrails and trying to make myself believe they are anything but contrails.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by profundus
That is not an assumption a scientist would not make. If you were a meteorologist you would know that approaching weather systems often provide conditions conducive to the formation of contrails. You have cause and effect reversed.
Now, if i were a "scientists", (which i'm not), i'd have to conclude that these trails make rain.edit on 2/27/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Could there be more planes in the sky?
Originally posted by clairvoyantrose
reply to post by network dude
Wow really? There ARE people who admit to working on these chemical spray planes, as well as thousands upon thousands of people notice the skies are not the same anymore.
Why is this topic SO HARD TO BELIEVE?
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Could there be more planes in the sky?
It's not just the number it's the new technologies as well. The new high bypass turbofan runs cooler, so it tends to leave more persistent contrails than the older turbofans did.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by elrem48
Others did.
I know that 30 or more years ago, I did NOT view this "stuff" in our skies, and I was an avid skywatcher!
1944:
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So an airplane at great heights leaves behind it, stretching for endless miles, a visible "wake" composed of ice particles so tiny that they do not fall as snow but remain suspended in the air.
From 1968:
Daily, for example, hundreds of jet planes crisscross the nation or great parts of it, often leaving fluffy contrails of water vapor, manmade clouds, as a signature of their passage.
Some contrails soon dissapate. Others turn into or are soon followed by high cirruse clouds that can and do influence the earth's heat balance with the sun.
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Then there is the matter of cloudiness. The familiar contrails often left by high-flying planes might persist for a long time under some conditions.
It has. There are a lot more planes up there than there were 30 years ago.
no one will convince me that the average sky hasn't changed
edit on 2/28/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
A shill is a person that keeps saying these trails are "persistent contrails". STOP WITH THE LIES! Stop acting like the government(s) would never do such a thing to people. That's FAAAAAAAR from the truth.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by MysterX
Except what people are pointing to as chemtrails are persistent contrails, and their sprayer aircraft are anything but. Yes, I believe it's possible that chemtrails are real, but I have yet to see someone able to point to something concrete that proves it.
And I love how people claiming aviation experience are now labeled as disinfo agents. That's a great way to prove your point, everyone that might know what they're talking about is a shill.
Now, i'm NOT going to go out on a limb and say the US government is spraying deadly poisons on us (because they would be spraying on themselves and their loved ones) but, i WILL go out on a limb and say: THEY'RE MESSING WITH THE WEATHER via these "persistent contrails" aka "chemtrails".
How Has Chemtrail Spraying of Aerosol Chemicals Been Used? In 1946, future pharmaceutical czar George Merck reported to the US Secretary of War, that he'd managed to weaponise the toxin extracted from the Brucella bacterium and to isolate it into an indestructible crystalline form using only the DNA particles. Aerial spraying of the crystals via chemtrails was deployed on Chinese and Korean populations during the Korean War. Many veterans of the war later developed Multiple Sclerosis. The army recognized that the MS was Brucella-related and paid the veterans compensation. Although the Brucella micoplasma can lay dormant for decades, it can be triggered by vaccines. Vaccines have been mandatory in the US military since 1911. Besides being linked to causing Multiple Sclerosis, this bacterium has been linked to a variety of diseases including; AIDS, cancer, diabetes, Parkinsons, Alzheimers and arthritis. In 2000, Dr. Charles Engel of the National Institute of Health stated that the brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well.
And, for those of you that would say: yeah but, what about passing inspections? Someone would know by now. Let me just say...the US Government owns the inspection stations and the inspectors. Passing imaginary tests are NOT A PROBLEM.Source
Since 9-11 all US airports have been under military control.