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reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 01:56 AM by smarterthanyou
reply to post by flyswatter



Look up the definition of compartmentalize, see if that helps.

Thanks for that link SmokingGun. That's a great website.


I feel bad for those working in the airline industry who feel responsible for what's going on and can't do anything about it.


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 02:16 AM by charlyv
Originally posted by smarterthanyou
reply to
post by flyswatter



Look up the definition of compartmentalize, see if that helps.

Thanks for that link SmokingGun. That's a great website.


I feel bad for those working in the airline industry who feel responsible for what's going on and can't do anything about it.


Compartmentalization and (union_workers or union_replaced_contractors) has no members.
You obviously do not know what you are talking about, and I can certainly prove that. Wanna go?
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reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 02:23 AM by fireyaguns
reply to post by charlyv



You prove a big fat 0

You don't deserve to be on here


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 02:30 AM by charlyv
reply to post by fireyaguns



Come up with an argument that makes that true I have been here 3 years longer than you, and that is all you have to say?


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 02:51 AM by smarterthanyou
reply to post by charlyv



Compartmentalize is a verb. Compartmentalization is technically a thing.

Do I wan't to go? Lol. Go what?


There's plenty of circumstancial evidence that's been supplied and even more that hasn't.

Eventually the truth will come out.


Remember when people didn't think Area 51 actually existed?


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 03:01 AM by charlyv
reply to post by smarterthanyou



Semantics at best, those that work in the blue collar area of secret projects do not have "compartmentalized" access to anything. They are just told that they cannot talk about anything they work with. The knowledge of "compartmentalization", or " which groups are allowed to know what", , is only known by the people that run the show.


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 03:07 AM by smarterthanyou
reply to post by charlyv



Or insiders that whistleblow.
I will leave you with this. I studied meteorology for a year and stopped because I hated calculus.

I'm sure the threads on this subject will continue but 4AM isn't the best time to go document hunting.



reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 05:04 AM by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by charlyv
reply to
post by smarterthanyou



Semantics at best, those that work in the blue collar area of secret projects do not have "compartmentalized" access to anything. They are just told that they cannot talk about anything they work with. The knowledge of "compartmentalization", or " which groups are allowed to know what", , is only known by the people that run the show.


Sounds a lot like "the fact that there is no evidence is evidence they are hiding all the evidence!"


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 05:07 AM by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by frenzy4444
reply to
post by TrueAmerican



They are spraying chemtrails every day in Sydney I even write to main stream media. Poison the people and make it easier for haarp to control the weather


How does poisoning PEOPLE make it easier for HAARP to control the WEATHER???

That is so meaningless it is not even wrong!



reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 05:10 AM by Speckle
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul



Because the more metal in the air makes Haarp more effective. They are spraying to make Haarp more effective. imo. At these levels, HAARP can make a cloud catch fire


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 05:38 AM by NeoVain
Originally posted by profundus
Originally posted by randyvs
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post by NeoVain





I need to back myself up?


Damn straight you do Neo. You make a bold bombastic BS statement like you did about any member. And the first thing you should be asked for is proof. And frankly, he isn't making stupid ass statements like that about you. So I'd have to take his word over yours right now no matter who the hell he is.
What "bold bombastic BS statement" did he make? I think he was saying that it's easy to believe in something, when you're getting paid to believe it? Why is that such a "stupid ass statement"? How do you know it's not true? Do you know the people on ATS??? Do you know what they do for a living? How do you know he's not a shill? How do you know i'm not a shill?

Oh wait, if i were a shill...i'd be agreeing with Phage. But, i'm a realist....living in an age of advanced technology. A technology people still don't think exists.


Confirmed.


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 06:23 AM by NeoVain
Originally posted by Phage
reply to
post by profundus




Why are you so surprised? If they want people to believe these trails are "normal persisting contrails"; while covering up the truth, what better way to hypnotize the masses?

But what about this? Not Hollywood?
aircrap.org...

But I don't watch many movies any way.
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You mean this?


It is remarkable that there are movies now spreading the word about geoengineering aka chemtrails. Opinions are changing as more and more public awareness to the obvious drama going on but being officially denied in the skies….clearly many can see the massive contrast with today’s skies and those years Pre-1995 in the US and pre-2000 in the EU and other NATO nations. Today we see a different colour blue and long persistent trails that were just not there before. With incremental increases in the trails it is hoped the gradual increase would appear normal to the masses. As people raise the alarm, a complex game of disinformation, propaganda and a sophisticated counterintelligence operation works 24/7 to discredit the information flowing. The governments are all complicit in a huge program, controlling the weather, food production and costs…together with changing the atmosphere to fascilitate the use of HAARP and other frequency based weapons. The governments are loosing their information war, as admitted by Hilary Clinton and desperate measures are being implemented such as new internet laws, privacy laws and terrorist laws all designed to combat and discredit the truth movement. The corrupt governments hire teams of trolls and shills to post comments on the internet and newspaper comments just to dissuade or upset truthers or persuade them they have it all wrong. This is a massive effort. Illnesses have multiplied exponentially, many of which are linked to chemtrails. Simple rainwater analysis or blood and hair samples can confirm the excessive heavy metals in our system. The UK government published it’s 5th report…On the Regulations on Geoengineering in 2009….this program is advanced and the changes are becoming evident. The soil is changing and can easily be verified. They are controlling the weather, creating high and low pressures as desired…moving the jet streams, melting the polar region by design in order to access the rich resources. They also are facilitating the massive release of trapped methane by geoengineering and consequently are causing tremendous climatic problems, which they will try to solve using they ionospheric heaters to save us ( not admitting they caused the problem) and cause much more damage. The corrupt governments are but pawns in a much bigger plan, hundreds of years old to dominate the planet and all resources and people entirely for the control from the obscenely rich elites. The Crown Corporation, the Committee of 300, The Zionists and upper Freemasons, Bilderburg group, CFR and many other NGO’s are tools of the Obscenely rich elites planning a NEW WORLD ORDER…a totalitarian technocracy of total enslavement…to be enacted through the” UN agenda 21″ aka ( sustainable development) all hinging on the big deception of global warming threat, devised by the Club of Rome which is another organisation set up by the elites. The whole global warming fear mongering is a fraud, however geoengineering that has been going on is creating freakish weather and climatic problems…which can be misconstrued to appear to confirm the LIE of global warming. Hundreds of eminent scientists are now dissenting perpetuating the LIE and top scientists at the UK research climate centre have even been caught out ” fixing and skewing the data” to fit the bogus objectives of the UN and the elites. The obscenely rich elites are master criminals, using Eugenics and poisonous vaccines and toxins in water such as fluride to control the population. Using propaganda and predictive programing to condition the masses to accept their vision and conclusions. For further research please refer to the ” useful links ” at mrmaxbliss.wordpress.com The corrupt governments use a system of compartmentalization to manage their deception and we the people only have each other to make the changes needed to stop the insanity. WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT CONSENT…and we the people can change everything together, by raising awareness to the facts we can reach everyone including many of the police and military. The media are controlled as are the courts, the only way to change this horrendous plan is to wake everyone up to the TRUTH behind the mass deception, we must expose and dismantle the elites and their machinations NOW. Work together, put the unity back into our community……..PEACE 4 ALL


First comment on the link you gave.


reply posted on 28-2-2013 @ 07:19 AM by Gazrok
reply to post by TrueAmerican



Here are the problems with Chemtrails...

1) If "they" are doing this...then "they" are also spraying themselves and their families (unless you see a bunch of folks going around in hazmat suits to work, school, etc.).

2) The amount of personnel that would have to be involved (ground crews, pilots, airlines, tower crews, etc., etc.) are absolutely guaranteeing nothing could be kept secret.

These two items are quite enough to declare the whole idea ludicrous...yet there are plenty of further reasons it's ridiculous as well.

A few years back, I was outside and heard an aircraft at a few thousand feet. As I was watching, the pilot cycled his sprayer on/off several times. A thick, opaque chemical trail almost looking like Morris Code appeared.


As a quick note, the inability to recall it as Morse Code (vs. Morris Code) leads me to believe that the individual is not trained in estimating the altitude of aircraft. Estimating altitude from ground level is difficult for even trained observers, let alone anyone else, especially without reference points (and if flying that low, then there likely aren't any tall reference points in the area unless the plane is coming in for a landing or taking off).
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