Originally posted by opethPA
Sorry I just don't see being financially successful as being a slave.
If the foundation of this debate is supporting or playing within the system as a baseline for slavery I have still yet to see anyone prove how I'm a
slave. Paying rent, my taxes, living how I want.
Are their slaves to drugs, drinking, smoking, gambling, debt or whatever else absolutely. since none of those apply to me I still don't know what I
need to wake up to..
Hopefully someone can enlighten me.
edit on 17-2-2013 by opethPA because: (no reason given)
I'm gonna quickly jump in here. This is a topic I often ponder, and then you used the word success.
Let me start by saying I think the OP has reached a certain level of enlightenment, and wants to share his new found wisdom. I pretty much agree with
him, and am unhappy with the replies asking for alternatives. Lets just agree or disagree that his point is relevant, then if we agree his is right,
we can look for ways to remedy.
Now on to success. You did say financial success at least, rather than just success, because generally the only unqualified success is financial
It is exactly that which enslaves us - the quest for financial success. And until you come to shudder when you here of a growing economy on the news
you will be enslaved. The most important thing in this world is NOT a growing economy. We live in a finite biosphere that is already over-populated.
But thats a different thread.
Now I measure success in the following ways:
1) how much improvement I made to the world in a day
2) how far I ran, swum, cycled or whatever
3) how much good food, beer, wine etc I consumed
4) how much I helped my family, friends etc
5) how much of my knowledge I passed on to other people
7) how many adventures I had
8) how many stories I got from 7) to tell at the pub (see 3)
now a lot of this involves 'work'. i have orchestrated my life so that I make enough money to be able to be successful every day, as defined above.
I officially dislike money, so it can not control me. It has taken some time, and many epiphanies (and no more watching TV!!!). But when you see
it, as the OP did, it really whacks you. Because prior to that vision, you were a part of it. Just like I bought the 9/11 OS for many years before
questioning it, and then whack.
I have a lot to say on this, but will end this post with thee beginnings of a solution.
To get out of this, ask yourself what is really important in life, and be guided by that. My list included clean air, food, water, love, fun,
friendship, meaningful work, spirituality/freedom, music, sport, etc. Yes a nice house and big TV and fast car make the list, but not the top 10.
Stop buying crap! Shopping is not a sport! It is a necessary evil. The term 'shopping therapy' just cracks me up. Plant a garden, brew your own
beer. Make it a community thing. Get to know your neighbours. Make stuff. Fix Stuff. Dont throw it away and buy a cheap chinese replacement.
Lots of chinese workers die just because you buy their cheap crap.
And question the government. Spread the word. Get the masses thinking and talking. People power will win.