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from what I've gathered that is a bank routing number linking you as property of some royalty british bank.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by spqrenki
Um. . . . what would you consider a viable alternative?
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by spqrenki
Tending to side with the dissenting opinion based only upon the fact that it is the dissenting opinion smacks of a lack of maturity and a predisposed and agenda based thought process.
Originally posted by opethPA
Sorry I just don't see being financially successful as being a slave.
If the foundation of this debate is supporting or playing within the system as a baseline for slavery I have still yet to see anyone prove how I'm a slave. Paying rent, my taxes, living how I want.
Are their slaves to drugs, drinking, smoking, gambling, debt or whatever else absolutely. since none of those apply to me I still don't know what I need to wake up to..
Hopefully someone can enlighten me.edit on 17-2-2013 by opethPA because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by spqrenki
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by spqrenki
Um. . . . what would you consider a viable alternative?
I don't really know other than people simply refusing to partake in the system. As it is, we're already seeing tent cities popping up all over the country. There needs to be a different way of thinking by the public. This idea that "I can't survive without a job" needs to stop. People need to learn to be independent and come up with new ideas. As I said, the problem is the Government actively tries to stop you at every corner. Requiring million dollar insurance to drive your own cab is insane though. And good luck trying to get a commercial fishing license.
The system as it is needs to break fully before we really start to see change again, and trust me, we're already down that road. It's just how people will deal with the inevitable when it happens. Can they go without the luxuries of modern society in an attempt to become more self independent or will we continue to be the debt slave welfare queens we are today?
What ever happened to going out, cutting down trees, building your own house, growing your own food and not having to worry about a mortgage, cell phone bill, cable and internet, heat, etc.? Nobody wants to live like a caveman but there can and should be an option for something in between.
Originally posted by hmmmbeer
To get out of this, ask yourself what is really important in life, and be guided by that. My list included clean air, food, water, love, fun, friendship, meaningful work, spirituality/freedom, music, sport, etc. Yes a nice house and big TV and fast car make the list, but not the top 10. Stop buying crap! Shopping is not a sport! It is a necessary evil. The term 'shopping therapy' just cracks me up. Plant a garden, brew your own beer. Make it a community thing. Get to know your neighbours. Make stuff. Fix Stuff. Dont throw it away and buy a cheap chinese replacement. Lots of chinese workers die just because you buy their cheap crap.
And question the government. Spread the word. Get the masses thinking and talking. People power will win.
Originally posted by hmmmbeer
To get out of this, ask yourself what is really important in life, and be guided by that. My list included clean air, food, water, love, fun, friendship, meaningful work, spirituality/freedom, music, sport, etc. Yes a nice house and big TV and fast car make the list, but not the top 10. Stop buying crap! Shopping is not a sport! It is a necessary evil. The term 'shopping therapy' just cracks me up. Plant a garden, brew your own beer. Make it a community thing. Get to know your neighbours. Make stuff. Fix Stuff. Dont throw it away and buy a cheap chinese replacement. Lots of chinese workers die just because you buy their cheap crap.
And question the government. Spread the word. Get the masses thinking and talking. People power will win.
Originally posted by darkbake
reply to post by Quauhtli
I agree here, we should be looking into ways to help people empower themselves instead of being dependent. That's the main idea. It didn't always used to be as bad as it has been since the corporate crash in 2008 where other people's bad decisions affected the whole nation's ability to improve their lives.
Both the attacks on the corporations and government are justified.
It is easy to see how someone can mistake these "accidental" events (the causes of the recession and the inept government) as a deliberate attempt to nudge the nation into slavery, because these events do it oh so effectively.edit on 17-2-2013 by darkbake because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by spqrenki
Right because I have an opinion that differs from yours which obviously means I'm some dead beat looking for hand outs while you, up there on your high horse, looks down on me with sorrow.
Originally posted by spqrenkiYou think I'm one of those occupy people that want everything handed to them. I believe you are the second person in this thread to have that opinion.
Me me me me me because I want less Government and more personal responsibility.
Originally posted by spqrenki
reply to post by zedVSzardoz
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." -Thomas Jefferson
It seems we're not even entitled to the land our fathers conquered, how sad.
Originally posted by spqrenki
Yet you have this opinion that I'm asking for hand outs for some reason.