Originally posted by opethPA
Originally posted by spqrenki
reply to post by frazzle
Point, match. There are people that will simply never wake up to reality because they choose not to. It's the equivalent of sticking your fingers in
ear and screaming "NO NO NO NO NO". At some point, those in denial will be forced to awaken when they're standing in a bread line.
So you can't prove how I'm a slave or even logically debate it thus a better move is to take your toys and go home?
Okay, let's take another look at the word "slave" and try and apply it to the lifestyle of folks in the U.S. Please bear with me for a sec.
First off I think that the word slave is not really the best word to use here, but for lack of a better one we'll go with it for now.
It would not be possible to build a car for every adult on earth, we would soon suffocate as a species. Sharing the air we breath with automobiles
cannot be a justifiable option for the far future of life on this planet.
Producing plastic for almost all packaging as well as most of the tools we use to provide shelter, and a comfortable life, like the one you choose to
live is also not a long term option for the future of life on this planet. It will eventually pollute the life to a point where it cannot reproduce.
Man has already lost half the average sperm count due to the pollutions caused from plastic. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Buying and living off of a piece of land is not possible if one wants to become totally self sufficient without paying into the current tax situation
that we have today. It will be taken away from him if he does not participate in the community at least enough to pay his taxes. What if he just wants
to take care of his family and that's all? Not possible, he must allot some of his time to nourishing a system that is slowly taking more than it
gives back to the environment, inevitably leading to the destruction of his own family.
What if a man choose to give back more than he takes from mother nature during his lifetime? What if he does not want to live a life that's
foundation is built on oil, what if he chooses to live a life without plastic as the main material that he uses as tools or shelter? What if he wants
to use his own energy to build a life without cars or electric powered tools? What if he chooses to live a life that harvests only natural renewable
materials that organically decompose to rejuvenate the life that he consumed? What if he chooses to forgo the taxes that he knows are paying into a
system that will eventually snuff out all life on the planet? After all he is "free" to make these types of choices correct?
Maybe, but what would be the outcome?
Well, some would think it impossible to try and avoid all these negative aspects of our reality. We were born into this current situation and we are
all used to it. We see ourselves as free to make whatever choices that we see fit in the living of our lives. But when one takes a close look at the
choices that we have, one see's that we are indeed trapped into a situation in which we do have to work for someone who does not have our best
interests at heart. We cannot escape the plantation because it encompasses the whole world in which we live now. If one does try and live free of all
these negative choices, what will be the outcome?
He would not get far in his endeavors for sure. His way is not allowed, it will not bring success, for sure he will be rendered impotent toward
providing for his family. He will wither up and eventually be tossed into a hole and his name will be forgotten and he will not have gotten far enough
to even be a good example of sustainable living to those around him. He will disappear from history and become nameless.
Not unlike a disobedient slave.
Hope this does it for answering your question. I don't think that slave is a good word to explain our situation, but I do not know of a better one to
use here. Perhaps we should take a closer look and try and define the situation that we live in today. I believe that one of the reasons that we got
here to this point is because we do not understand it fully yet. This thread is a good example of the efforts taken by some of us to explain the
predicament we are faced with today. It touches on some of the hard decisions and definitions of our current situation. We have a long way to go and
some tough decisions in front of us as a species.
Great effort OP please keep up the good work, and although it may be hard at times, don't hesitate to ask the hard questions.