Dark web warning

Originally posted by TKDRL
Lol good luck trying to shut down TOR.....
What kind of idiot allows their 12 year old on the internet without supervision anyways? Love how they had to throw in the ADD as well, as if it was somehow relevant.

edit on Sat, 19 Jan 2013 04:07:25 -0600 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

Exactly. Something tells me this kid did not just "stumble" onto the underground web. It does not really work that way. I'm sure that is what he told his dad though, lol. There are government agencies that monitor just about every single one of those sites they know about, and they even participate in some of what is going on. For instance, they will buy CC dumps and other stuff like that. But the thing is that they cannot really do anything unless it is occurring in the country where they have jurisdiction.

The vast majority of these sites are based in places like Russia and China, and other places where computer crime is abundant. But there are still sites that originate from the US out there, although they take certain measures to make it appear as if they originated somewhere else. But this only prolongs the inevitable, as sooner or later it will be figured out. Sometimes the domains will switch as well. There are precautions taken by those who sell things on the web's black market, but unless they are in a country where the government actually cares or has the resources to go after them, they have nothing to worry about. I have heard of the FBI nabbing some of the higher level guys when they left their country of origin or operation and went into a country that the US was on good terms with. Who knows though...

Ok, now that is really weird. I have just found out about the existence of this "dark web", or "deep web" yesterday. Now I check ATS every day, and I have not been very active on here for a while. However, I find it incredibly coincidental that I have never seen any mention of the deep web on ATS and I had just discovered it yesterday from a fellow I met on Omegle. Now, the reason I bring this up is that I see a possibility that this may be some new trending thing going around, like the Sandy Hook conspiracy video that I get asked about on Omegle more and more out of the blue.

So, my theory is that the growing popularity of all of these topics that were previously unkown to most are becomming more and more commonplace due to things spreading through Facebook and chat rooms like Omegle.

Has anyone else noticed this strange new trend?

Originally posted by TKDRL
Lol good luck trying to shut down TOR.....
What kind of idiot allows their 12 year old on the internet without supervision anyways? Love how they had to throw in the ADD as well, as if it was somehow relevant.

edit on Sat, 19 Jan 2013 04:07:25 -0600 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

Agreed yes hackers could hack the websites and find users but pretty much shutting it all down is not very possible.

His appalled father now wants to spread the word to other parents and has even written to the Home Secretary about it.

^ That above is an example of very bad parenting and as for the kid doesn't he know how to use Google search?

he should have searched for gamespot, moddatebase if his looking for the games how the heck did he even found that crap? Dark Web gaming?

reply to post by TKDRL


I have been allowed to go online without supervision since the day we got our first computer back in ~1997.

It's not uncommon. It's just a fact. Parents were told the computer is access to their child's future, and they sure as hell had no idea what it was. So they let their kids play with it like their parents let them play with radios and phones. (Which actually, come to think about it, did lead to some serious Hilarity and Trolling

But yea, like you said. Good fracking luck taking down TOR. You thought Anonymous was hard. That's the place even anonymous fears treading.

Remember, federal agents. If you stare into the abyss of TOR, the abyss of TOR stares back at you.

reply to post by Gorman91


To anon's credit, they did try to take down some of the more shady sites. All they did was give them a free security audit prettymuch. They annoyed freedomhosting, and forced them to make some changes to protect better against DDOS. They released some supposed registration names as well.

Hackers may be able to get user names, but that would really only effect the extremely low, half rotting fruit. The people that use the same user name as their yahoo or something Even then, it could be someone intentionally using a person they don't like's usual handle, just to mess with their life.

As already mentioned, you need to download TOR in order to get to the dark side of the internet. "Deep web" is a different thing. I have, out of curiosity, gone to the dark web, and found it quite disturbing, I visited some of my language sites (general discussion), and the stuff on there was terrible. And there were ads for hitmen etc. So I haven't been there since. Only thing mildly interesting is hacking and leaks, which I did once get from Anonymous (or was it Lulsec), days before it hit the news (just to check I wasn't on there, which I wasnt)

Originally posted by Renegade2283
Ok, now that is really weird. I have just found out about the existence of this "dark web", or "deep web" yesterday. Now I check ATS every day, and I have not been very active on here for a while. However, I find it incredibly coincidental that I have never seen any mention of the deep web on ATS and I had just discovered it yesterday from a fellow I met on Omegle. Now, the reason I bring this up is that I see a possibility that this may be some new trending thing going around, like the Sandy Hook conspiracy video that I get asked about on Omegle more and more out of the blue.

So, my theory is that the growing popularity of all of these topics that were previously unkown to most are becomming more and more commonplace due to things spreading through Facebook and chat rooms like Omegle.

Has anyone else noticed this strange new trend?

Nope, I check ATS every now and then, and saw this today, I've known about the dark web for ages, so no coincidence there.

If you check ATS daily, you may have noticed this thread yesterday (when it was posted), and then subconciously found out about it through however you found out about it. Nothing weird there.

reply to post by rikgrimsby


Just another example of why we MUST be there when our kids are online. Serious parental controls are a must. My computer is set up to ALWAYS block certain types of sites, and I tested it to be sure it worked. Plus, the kids can't use it unattended. There is some really sick stuff out there, and there are a lot of predators using the net to hunt children. Constant vigilance is the only option, unless you ban the kids from computers entirely. One in their room? NEVER happening in my house!

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


Yeah, good call. When I was a kid, our computer was in the livingroom, always someone around to peep at what we were doing. I thought it sucked at the time of course, but in my old age, I understand it now. I think you should not be able to use a computer unsupervised, until you are able to buy one on your own.

I think there may be some terminology issues in this thread
In any case, for the hand wringers, these deeper levels are invaluable. If you dont want to see garbage.. then dont look at it. There is a lot more there and no one forces you to see what you dont want to see or read.. or know.

Depending on where the kid actually went, some places he did NOT stumble upon. Sounds like the kid barely scratched the surface and thought he fell into the deepweb.. erm. nope.

Look up USCyberlabs for a little of info and what its applications can be There are also closed locations and "clubs" things of that nature. Peope who hear DARK... theyre dirty narrow minds will immediately only think of the usage of this for porn and drugs wihtout even investigating it, but in reality.. its a meeting of the minds on MANY subjects. These places are invaluabe. Kind of like most things, it depends on how its used and by whom and for what reason. Youll always have some ass ( a LOT in this case) exploit something and put it in a bad light... and then a bunch of ninnies ONLY see the bad to whine about. In reality, you may be thanking your lucky stars for this one day. Oh and speaking of actually using the dark and deeps.. these little USB computers and things like Raspberry Pi? GREAT... or bad.

there are websites offering "proxy bridges" to the tor web

Absolutely no need for part about ADHD to be in there. However, this guy's a computer programmer and is now just learning about the dark web? On another note why do we need a picture of the kid and his dad? The article didn't need to have it or even their little personal story. If he didn't want any recognition if you will then he should of just contacted the news outlet and said this is the darkweb. I contacted so and so and got this response. Parents should be more alert. Something along those lines if he really just wanted to get the word out.

no you don't just happen in to the dark web . some good info but lot in there not suited for lot of ppl

To all those saying that it does not work. It does work.
For Tor, you need to allow traffic to the input chain of your firewall.

ACCEPT tcp -- 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0/0 tcp dpt:4001

JonDonym is an alternative to Tor. It is just not as fast as Tor and uses a Java agent, which I don't recommend.

The CIA uses tracking software for intelligence gathering World wide on interfaces like Facebook,Twitter,LinkedIn etc.What many people do not know is that Anonymous is a brain child of the CIA.They did this to cause mayhem on the Internet so that they could bring in censorship World wide.The USA Congress just defeated a bill by a narrow margin that would have required every Internet use to use their real name IP on any post or submission that was made on the Internet.Anonymous chat channels are monitor by the Feds and they know who many members are.They will end up going to jail.

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Originally posted by Advantage
I think there may be some terminology issues in this thread

In any case, for the hand wringers, these deeper levels are invaluable. If you dont want to see garbage.. then dont look at it. There is a lot more there and no one forces you to see what you dont want to see or read.. or know.

Agreed, unfortunately I didn't find anything too interesting apart from some hacking info, some leaked documents (before they got into msm), and some really scary stuff about a murder case that happened locally (found it by viewing my language's general discussion board, in the news it was described as an accident, and actually the discussion may well have been fake, but made me wonder anyway).

No doubt there is important info in there, and certainly interesting stuff, I just haven't found it yet, might actually go looking again some time (if only you could block adds on TOR).

reply to post by ThinkYouSpeak


He didn't stumble on it, he found a tutorial on how to access it.

Welcome to ... The Undernet.


QV.

Originally posted by Preacher76
However, this guy's a computer programmer and is now just learning about the dark web?

He may write only Excel macros.

On another note why do we need a picture of the kid and his dad? The article didn't need to have it or even their little personal story.

Yes, the whole article sounds and looks a little strange.

reply to post by Kandinsky


Silk road isn't the only site you know "hello would you like me to scam you"

"you don't just stumble"

Maybe someone pointed him in the direction maybe he read one of the MANY MANY Posts online that deal with it maybe some PEDOS in ANON were in the process of grooming him.


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I love the way it's portrayed as sekret club tor is not safe......mmmmm exit node


reply to post by Renegade2283


There has been more than one thread on it

try searching: tor, silkroad, darknet, darkweb, deepnet etc etc

reply to post by rikgrimsby

There was a big write up in one of the papers here.whats the bets this existed before the regular web,i think from what i read that day,its stupid scumy currency is called bitacon or something closely related to that.Its something that is really close to some consoles points systems for games.
Then i have some ass tell me you can buy ex army helicopters for 80 grand,what a cesspit,

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I love the way it's portrayed as sekret club

tor is not safe......mmmmm exit node

edit on 20-1-2013 by aivlas because: (no reason given)

That goes for any connection. Who is telling me that Google admins are not sniffing traffic?