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posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 08:23 AM
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Google would never do such a thing




posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 08:23 AM
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I used to (and still do) have a blog on the darknet, I know of many people that do as well, for the main reason that it's not searched by google and you can pretty much yap away and it's not gonna show up when your boss googles you.

But, again, as others have said, you don't just "stumble" upon the darknet....



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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Obviously we'll soon see more of articles like this, written in "a child accidentially found disgusting things - parents call for action to save the children from those things" scheme, which, as you can see, works flawlessly with sleeple.

Well it's just obvious that it is just the next stage of battle against free AND anonymous speech. (Surfacenet has been long under this attack)

And it is very sad that instead of truly anonymous discussion, whistleblowing and vigilantism, the darknets are permeated with the darkside of human psyche, and those interested will definitely put effort into making an average person believe this is the worst place to visit.

I do hope that pages like that posted above about "experiments on human beings" are fake and made exactly with the sole purpose of revolting people from darknet.

But, anyway... Attempting to deny existance of all those ugly topics in human noosphere is utter hypocrisy... As already said before, it's impossible to fight against the bad without harming the good too. The more so because you can't define an absolute verge between them.

And the darknet is only a tool, one might use a knife to cut bread or to kill someone.. Damn, one might kill with bare hands, if strong enough!

And instead of trying to isolate your children from the world, you better just try to make the world better...
edit on 20-1-2013 by CaptainAbstract because: typos



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
As long as there is an internet, governments that censor their country's internet, and a need for a black market, TOR will continue to exist.

Well, unless someone comes up with something even better that is.
edit on Sat, 19 Jan 2013 04:28:07 -0600 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
The way things work in todays world TOR is probably nothing more then a soft decoy, if we are talking about it like this then you know there is a deeper darker web site that the real "human defects" go to.

I notice anybody that has looked into this website has not mentioned "snuff films"....................so how bad do humans really get, is anyones immagination that broad, when you talk about reporting it to someone, it would just be another human, the so called people that are there to "protect and serve"prove eveyday how defective they are.

Sadly this is just another sick norn for human nature...........just my opinion.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by ThinkYouSpeak
lol you don't just "stumble" onto the darkweb. this 12 year old kid would of needed to install the tor bundle, enable it on his browser...and have a index list of sites to go to

sounds like it was the dad and he was caught tryin to cover his ass



exactly what i was thinking.. who really installed tor on the machine ? and why ?


there are plenty or warez sites on the www to get games, etc.

i don't think 12 year olds use .onion sites.... do they ?

the story says he was led there by a internet tutorial.. but i don't know if i buy that
edit on 20-1-2013 by spaceg0at because: the dad looks like a creep
edit on 20-1-2013 by spaceg0at because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by ThinkYouSpeak
lol you don't just "stumble" onto the darkweb. this 12 year old kid would of needed to install the tor bundle, enable it on his browser...and have a index list of sites to go to

sounds like it was the dad and he was caught tryin to cover his ass


Yes I have known about Dark Web for years and have protective software to keep people out of my computers via the dark web.

and you are right the only way to discover it is to have the correct software to access it. Normally it is used by hackers, governments, Spy organizations (like CIA FBI et al), Microsoft, Corel and many many other software firms to keep your computers up to date when checking your program versions without using up your's or their's broadband.

I would agree this man nor his son just stumbled onto it. They had to have the programs to enter it and they paid for the bundle or got it from a torrent site.

edit on 20-1-2013 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by spaceg0at
the story says he was led there by a internet tutorial.. but i don't know if i buy that

Just search for "tor tutorial" and see how easy it is.

Now, as Ghost375 said, if you think that someone could have written "tor" expecting it to mean "The Old Republic", you can see that it's easy to find it while looking for something else.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by ChesterJohn
I would agree this man nor his son just stumbled onto it. They had to have the programs to enter it and they paid for the bundle or got it from a torrent site.

TOR is free, but it's true that you need to have some address to start looking, Google doesn't work there.


But I guess that a tutorial would have a least one link to see if things are working.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Nevertheless

Originally posted by rikgrimsby
It's the first time I've seen some about the dark web in the main stream nes so to speak.
Not really sure what he hope to do by writing to the government tho as seen as there probs one of the biggest users of it.

Are you completely sure you know what you are talking about?




Absolutely no doubt he knows what he is talking about. How else do you account for a public Brit pedophile that can molest 500 children over decades and get away with it?

On this side of the great puddle, "government" employees are easily controlled with this type of thing. How else do you account for the last decade + in the US?


5200-pentagon-employees-purchased-child-pornography
planet.infowars.com...



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 12:05 PM
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This kid did not accidentally find this site. Tor can easily be found by doing a G°°GLE search.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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this story smells like teen spirit

"Robert Palmer, 53, of Arundel Place, Cleethorpes, was horrified when his son Morgan, who suffers from Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), told him what he had unearthed."

wtf does ADD even have to do with this story? what, he wouldnt have found it if he didnt have add, he wouldnt have gotten a parent if he was add? what the F does this even have to do with a story, and what parent would answer a question whether the kid has a learning disability when they know its going to be an interview in print or tv lol?

"The computer whiz had found an ominous tutorial, explaining how to download a different web server, which he did, that unveiled the whole section of the internet not available to normal users."

just happend to "find" the tutorial. haha yeah right, as a person who used to search for this kinda stuff as a kid 8-12 yr,before the internet was even the "internet" lol, you dont ever "stumble" across these things heh, EVER, most have whitewashed pages that you cant even see till you highlight everything let alone just having it pop up on a google search,,, i dont think so lol.

""I knew what it was straight away so I went to get my dad."

yah i always run to get my mommy when i see something on the internet that i specifically downloaded to circumvent securities to get access to things that im not normally allowed to see lol BS

"Mr Palmer, who writes computer programmes himself, contacted Humberside Police but was told nothing could be done – although they have offered advice to parents and assured them that calls will be taken seriously."

sounds more like this mr palmer got caught looking at child pron or got a letter from his isp stating he broke some law/rule and now is trying to cover the tracks, wheres the mother in this story, moms not proud that son saved the day?

i smell complete BS, or a dad trying to cover his own tracks from being caught.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
just happend to "find" the tutorial. haha yeah right, as a person who used to search for this kinda stuff as a kid 8-12 yr,before the internet was even the "internet" lol, you dont ever "stumble" across these things heh, EVER, most have whitewashed pages that you cant even see till you highlight everything let alone just having it pop up on a google search,,, i dont think so lol.

Try it.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 12:47 PM
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And this is surprising? Do you honestly think humanity has evolved so much in 2000 years? Seriously, are people just brought up to be surprised when normal human behavior happens?



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
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Hmmmm, I never thought of it that way, dark as in bad. I always thought of it as dark, as in not easily seen.



Well Dark internet...... full of assassins, kiddie porn and sex trade... is the gist of the whole thread. Half the posts make it sound like you are walking down a "dark" alley where it is not easily seen what is lurking in the shadows. usually in those "dark" alleys you are said to run into thugs, muggers, pimps, and drug dealers.

Free internet is not Dark, maybe hidden. saying it is dark puts it in a position where it has a sinister nature.

calling it Free and Hidden give it a different meaning than calling it dark. give it a try.

I just asked my wife and mother if they knew what the free or hidden internet and if they wanted to go there. they said sure and asked what was there then commented that they didn't know what it was.

then i asked them if they wanted to go to the dark internet. First thing they said. that does not sound good... lets just go to the free internet or maybe the hidden one.

Different ways to say the same thing, different reactions. Words are powerful and you need to use the ones that are not mis understood by the lowest form of understanding... that is unless you are trying to manipulate people.

My mother and my wife would be the type of people who would be manipulated into banning or condemning someone using the dark internet since they associate the adjective dark as bad. If you add associations to pedos, assasins and slave trade to it that just seals the case against it.

You do not understand the power of words. which is why my point flew over your head.


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posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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Well, I'm not shocked at all by this. TOR is very well known in this day and age. We understand it is being used for a lot of criminal activity but TOR also hosts a lot of 'secret' intelligence and servers. TOR is also used in finding and busting criminals in all walks of life.

I first discovered TOR when I was 15, playing a lot of online games, people would talk about these type of things. Though I did my research and found out what TOR is, what it's used for and vowed I would never visit it.

I believe what the boy found was just one of the many faces of TOR. You get directories that can be found anywhere that offer links to drug dealing, porn, whistle blowers and even assassins.

TOR can be used for good also, many government agencies use TOR. Especially spies in other countries, why pass over a secret document over the www, when you can do it underground, over anonymity without the fears of being caught. .tor is very safe. It all depends on the user.

Now for wanting TOR closed down, well that is not going to happen. Ever.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by PythonDev

The CIA uses tracking software for intelligence gathering World wide on interfaces like Facebook,Twitter,LinkedIn etc.What many people do not know is that Anonymous is a brain child of the CIA.They did this to cause mayhem on the Internet so that they could bring in censorship World wide.The USA Congress just defeated a bill by a narrow margin that would have required every Internet use to use their real name IP on any post or submission that was made on the Internet.Anonymous chat channels are monitor by the Feds and they know who many members are.They will end up going to jail.


Source


There is no way that Anonymous is a brain child of the CIA. Perhaps they have been, so to speak, infiltrated, as much as you can infiltrate an amorphous collection of internet denizens (which is to say, just become one of them), and since guided actions in order to bring about censorship ----

I don't believe that, but it is entirely possible. But Anonymous itself came into being exactly the way that the Official Story (hahahaha) states. Internet folk deciding that they were Legion while watching V for Vendetta.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 02:56 PM
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This doesn't shock me either, there are moral and immoral people in this world, it is only logical to assume that they both use this tool (the internet) to thier ends. You can't ban the internet or parts thereof because that act in and of itself is an act of tyranny. I will close with a quote from one of my all time favorite movies "Can't stop the signal".



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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One of the things no one has pointed out so far (at least in what I have read) is that this is a tactic to get the govt to pass laws banning, limiting and regulating the internet both Broadband and Dark net.

This is the true reason behind this new article.

The ADD was added to garner support that a child who is handicapped (right!) had found it so easy to enter a place that takes some knowledge to get into.

Lie, distortions and slight of hand techniques to get people riled up to regulate the internet.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 03:57 PM
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I would have thought this would be obvious to everyone:

It was funded by the US Navy.

It is an apparent "hub for criminal activity on the net."

You know what never mind.

I applaud the Navy for this, much more effective than dateline's how to catch a predator.

I wonder if they are even bothering to arrest them when they catch them


Is anyone here foolish enough to actually BELIEVE this is untraceable? Almost everything can be traced somehow, and at the very least the purchases and the buyers are not as anonymous as they think. The ones behind it some of it, IDK I hope they are not good at what they do. I honestly do doubt it...



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by ChesterJohn
One of the things no one has pointed out so far (at least in what I have read) is that this is a tactic to get the govt to pass laws banning, limiting and regulating the internet both Broadband and Dark net.

This is the true reason behind this new article.

The ADD was added to garner support that a child who is handicapped (right!) had found it so easy to enter a place that takes some knowledge to get into.

Lie, distortions and slight of hand techniques to get people riled up to regulate the internet.


ADD is a handicap?

I always considered it a compliment.





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