Dark web warning

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
I don't believe this at all. Kid just randomly stumbles into a super covert online network.

I explained exactly how it happened...

SW:the old republic is a popular game that recently went free to play.

The old republic is abbreviated TOR.

If you're searching for the old republic forums, a quick way to get there is googling "TOR forums."

Google was stupid and had the forums explaining how to install the TOR being discussed in this thread in the third spot. I know because i played the game, and googled "TOR forums".

I'm surprised it took this long for it to happen. It was like that for at least a year. They must've changed it up pretty quickly after this happened.

Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by hadriana

 

Im assuming youre refering to me
Wanna know how I found that information? I typed "TOR" into google.
What do you think will happen if a kid does the same thing

Yes you are assuming.
Yes, anyone can find out about Tor by typing it in Google.
It needs to be that way.
Of course it's searchable.

Tor itself isn't any big secret and shouldn't be.

I just don't want to see the public all outraged about it (like the man in the article but parents en masse) because most of them, unfortunately, are not able to comprehend that there is any good in it.

double post.
Those happen to me a lot here. Anyone know why, msg me please? It's only here.

First of all, I didn't read all 6 PAGES of comments, but...

I've never heard about this and s it really a good idea to even post this?

How many people are gonna get the bright idea to go look at tor and download whatever.

Thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention.

Originally posted by Sunglower
How many people are gonna get the bright idea to go look at tor and download whatever.

Thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention.

If people are stupid enough to do it, that's their own damned fault.
The title has "warning" in the title, ffs.

Meh KId wasn't even in the deep end...

He probably found some gateway with simple onion links from /b/ or circlejerk, and had no clue what kind of shark infested water he was surfing in.

Damn Kids.

reply to post by Juggernog


ha..this would be great for using blocked programs at work!

Originally posted by ThinkYouSpeak
lol you don't just "stumble" onto the darkweb. this 12 year old kid would of needed to install the tor bundle, enable it on his browser...and have a index list of sites to go to

sounds like it was the dad and he was caught tryin to cover his ass

Cover what though? Its not like its illegal to use TOR.

lol, Deep web yeah I seen it, and yes you can get contracted killers, drugs and weapons, pretty much everything you think that you couldn't.. I never seen any real "Classified" gov. info on it, must be deeper in but I doubt it..Although I never go to the child porn stuff but theirs that also. There is so much stuff, a lot of fked up stuff. My buddies bro used to sell some weapons and stuff on it. It's untraceable as none meets. Bitcoin you can get like anything not just illegal stuff with it. It's pretty Universal. It's all on the "Onion" source But, you can't just Google search any of this, you wont find nothing, even on TOR you can't just search for it. You may find some fake crap, but you really have to digg deep. But my advice, If you're searching and getting into this dark world, use a very good proxy and TOR and run this on a external device, so it's easy to get rid of the evidence, cause you may get a knock on your door asking why you looking on this crap, if you didn't secure your self.. But the Deep Webb has been around for awhile, It's pretty much the "World Black Market"..

I've never heard about any of this "dark web" or "deepnet" before... I feel like I may be a moron...

Our IT guy is always dropping references to the Darkweb . He recently sent me a picture of an iceberg with the part above water representing what most of us know as the internet. The rest and really interesting stuff, according to him, is under the radar of most internet users, who think they are on the cutting edge because they use Firefox instead of Microsoft Explorer. He's kind of creepy so I don't doubt that he is involved in some pretty nasty stuff.
My guess is that the kid "stumbled" into the dark side of the internet by using 4Chan.

Actually what he just did was inform other people that such a place exists. Influencing other children/adolescents to try it out and get into it

Originally posted by Sparky63
Our IT guy is always dropping references to the Darkweb . He recently sent me a picture of an iceberg with the part above water representing what most of us know as the internet. The rest and really interesting stuff, according to him, is under the radar of most internet users, who think they are on the cutting edge because they use Firefox instead of Microsoft Explorer. He's kind of creepy so I don't doubt that he is involved in some pretty nasty stuff.
My guess is that the kid "stumbled" into the dark side of the internet by using 4Chan.

The "dark" web is so named because that's the part of the internet that's not infested by Google webspiders or other spider bots. That's about 80% of the dark web, which is quite harmless overall. Then you have some TOR related sites/private server sites which really contain the nasty stuff like places where you can hire assassins, get chemicals, child porn, drugs, hackers, the works...

Most IT related people know of the dark web because we are kinda obligated to know. You can't get around it if you delve deeper into webdesign and networking. Don't worry, I'm sure your friend isn't up to any naughty things.

What? no! I was trying to find bingo.com. not sure how that got in my history, but I am disgusted!


I keed, I keed.
But anyhow, I would rather deal with the warts of a free internet than the bleach of a government controlled prisonnet

reply to post by Kuroodo


Only those with dumbass parents that let them surf the net without supervision.

This is IMO just another attempt at closing down an unregulated part of the internet. The governments DO NOT want their livestock to escape its "all seeing eye"

Fact is, child porn is like 0.000001% of the deep web. It has MANY uses, such as sending private data without the governments knowing.

Originally posted by Xaphan
reply to post by Robonakka

 

Nothing there that you can't find on the surface web? The last time I checked you couldn't buy human beings, or body parts, or any drug imaginable, or hire a hitman on the surface web.

Or maybe it is possible, I dunno. But probably much less likely on the surface web.

edit on 19-1-2013 by Xaphan because: (no reason given)

Well crap bro, you can totally score item #3 on the "regular" internet. You may have to do some maneuvering to get said merchandise to your person "legally" but like the man said, "Where there's a will....there's a way." No offense to you or anyone here, but a pre-teen could easily do this with like skill level 0 exp.

reply to post by Happy1

they should start arresting people using the underworld currency to purchase unlawful and immoral things.

I didn't expect to read such a stupid thing on ATS. Over 90% of crime in this world is still committed using good old cash. Maybe we should ban cash too and only use electronic currency which can easily be traced? Wait, isn't that one of the marks of the devil?

It isn't illegal to use alternative currencies or hold unusual commodities, it is perfectly legal to hold bitcoins, and at the end of the day it's only a few 1's and 0's on a computer. They can't just arrest anyone using bitcoin because there's nothing illegal about using bitcoin.

Sure if you use bitcoin to buy illicit products then it's illegal, and if you are caught doing that you will be arrested, just as you would be if you did the same thing using any other currency. They need to be going after the criminals instead of trying to stop the unstoppable.

Bitcoin has many benefits and directly challenges the mainstream banking system. It can do much good for this world if we allow it to. It'd be stupid to waste all that potential merely because we're scared of it being used wrongly, when in reality all currencies are used wrongly.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Kuroodo

 

Only those with dumbass parents that let them surf the net without supervision.

My kid fixes our computers. so I will say that I do allow unsupervised activity to *some*extent because of his prowess. He knows way more than we do about these machines. He set up the three screens display and linked everything to the same printer (basement, mom and dad's room, his room and dad's "man room") and hooked the tablets to the computers and TV's too. The boy is like Spock or some stuff, man. I think I may be a dumbass parent, but only because my kid is a smartass.

So i see that people have been conditioned to label anything free as dark.