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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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reply to post by Robonakka
 

Nothing there that you can't find on the surface web? The last time I checked you couldn't buy human beings, or body parts, or any drug imaginable, or hire a hitman on the surface web.

Or maybe it is possible, I dunno. But probably much less likely on the surface web.
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 09:58 AM
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When you think about it, you are so wrong its sick. Yes murder is horrible, but child porn wrecks that childs life forever.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 10:03 AM
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Can you really buy human beings?

Again I just refuse to believe in this stuff.

Why doesn't anyone set up an organization to buy all these humans and release them?

Obviously keep it secret to discourage people trafficking and human slavery but it would be a piece of piss to set up if people were for sale all over the place on the deep web.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by rikgrimsby


I never thought I'd see this in the news let alone my local news paper.. A12 year has found the dark web and his dad has gone on one.. It's the first time I've seen some about the dark web in the main stream nes so to speak. Not really sure what he hope to do by writing to the government tho as seen as there probs one of the biggest users of it.

www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk (visit the link for the full news article)


How old are you dude? This stuff has been around ever since the world wide web went online. I also want to know why this father never expected to see this kind of thing on the internet. has he been living underground with the mole people?



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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FYI:

There is thousands of computers that have TOR installed without the owners knowledge.

I know of two cities that use the TOR browser for their off site communications.

So, every employee that takes work home, has it...and I wonder how many of them know the full extent of the tools they have brought home. The vast majority don't.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 10:47 AM
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I wonder how much of it is trolling though. I mean, why would a hitman or someone like this put up a webpage. Maybe I'm just wishfully thinking it isn't real. IDK.



files.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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Other than reading about it on this and other websites I can honestly say I don't think I want anything to do with the "dark web". And seeing as how over the years I have surfed all over the internet and never landed there accidentally, getting to the "dark web" would have to be something you were trying to do intentionally. That being said there has to be some missing information in either the 12 year old boy or his father's story. Makes me wonder if the father is covering his own behind for some reason.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:24 AM
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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This story is BS.. Some of you are exclaiming the shock that a 12 year old is on the web unsupervised and was able to install TOR.. So naive.
This kid probably got caught viewing something very "shocking" to his parents and he wiggled his way out of it by playing innocent and saying it was an accident, he didnt know how he got there and we should let the world know of this horrible place


I guess a lot of you have never had kids and dont realize how manipulative they can be

Also, a lot of you may not know that TOR was developed by and still receives funds from the US Navy
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
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Also, a lot of you may not know that TOR was developed by and still receives funds from the US Navy
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There's a bit of truth to the government allegations here. Some years back, the DAR** funded information gathering site was shut down. I'm NOT going into details here, a lot of trouble follows, but let's just say that oil, foreign markets, and gambling were involved.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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Most of the offers are fake.
Most/all of the assassination sites are fake.

You CAN buy drugs from .onion sites with bitcoin, but you could also buy them on the street.
You might be able to buy guns from .onion sites but I'm not quite sure how they wouldn't be caught.

There is child pornography on .onion sites, but it's still up because it's very hard to find out who uploaded them and take them down. That's the whole point. You can be as outraged as you want, but short of shutting down Tor completely (and even that wouldn't work forever), you're not going to stop this illegal activity. And shutting down Tor means shutting down Chinese/Iranian/etc. access to some websites blocked by their firewall. You're shutting down the ability of whistleblowers to do so safely.

So yes, there's some awful stuff on the "deep web", but you cannot get rid of the bad without also getting rid of the good.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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No, theres a lot of truth. .Its pretty much public knowledge that the Govt is heavily into TOR

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Originally sponsored by the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory[8] (which had been instrumental in the early development of onion routing under the aegis of DARPA), Tor was financially supported by the Electronic Frontier Foundation from 2004 to 2005.[10] Tor software is now developed by the Tor Project, which has been a 501(c)(3) research-education nonprofit organization [11] based in the United States of America [1] since December 2006. It has a diverse base of financial support;[10] the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation are major contributors.[12] As of 2012, 80% of the Tor Project's $2M annual budget comes from the United States government, with the Swedish government and other organizations providing the rest,[13] including NGOs and thousands of individual sponsors.[14]



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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Ok you don't "stumble upon" the deep net. You need to install TOR bundle and even then, you have to know what sites you're looking for. It's just more complicated then they are making it out to be.



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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 11:59 AM
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Now that's some sick stuff i never heard of the dark web but i always had in mind that something like this would exist.But if you're average person doesnt land on site's like that, then it's save to say either the dad or the son knew more then they are telling.
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
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This story is BS.. Some of you are exclaiming the shock that a 12 year old is on the web unsupervised and was able to install TOR.. So naive.
This kid probably got caught viewing something very "shocking" to his parents and he wiggled his way out of it by playing innocent and saying it was an accident, he didnt know how he got there and we should let the world know of this horrible place


I guess a lot of you have never had kids and dont realize how manipulative they can be

Also, a lot of you may not know that TOR was developed by and still receives funds from the US Navy
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either way.. u all wish to hide the truth of this harsh reality from ur kids. well guess what.. same way you found it.. they will.. and u cant stop them. u can convince them santa clause bought them presents for how long u want. but eventually ull just seem like a liar.. and the longer.. the bigger liar u are.

but i just used santa clause as an example.. i personally saw him as a child in a lucid dream so vivid it was real. reindeer, sleighbells and all. so he's still real to me
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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It's likely one of them saw a link to the Hidden Wiki (Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org... )

Curiousity =/= crime. The Hidden Wiki links to the very pages these people are complaining about, and being curious about what you would find does not mean you were hoping to find it.

Further, I need to point out that .onion sites ARE accessible via Tor2web. tor2web.org...
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by cetaphobic
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It's likely one of them saw a link to the Hidden Wiki (Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org... )

Curiousity =/= crime. The Hidden Wiki links to the very pages these people are complaining about, and being curious about what you would find does not mean you were hoping to find it.

Further, I need to point out that .onion sites ARE accessible via Tor2web. tor2web.org...
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Wow thanks for the information i immediately started reading about the anonymous attack against the dark web that's also a interesting story.I wont be visiting torweb though i'm not in to find any of those subjects but i do like to check out what the history is of the dark web.
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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Not a problem. As a 4channer and someone perpetually curious, I am in the exact shoes of having seen too much because I was just poking around. Mistakes are easy to make on Tor, and being curious about everything doesn't help.

I don't do drugs and have no reason to buy them, but I have seen sites selling them.
I have no interest in child pornography, but I have seen a few sites with those photos.

Blaming the father or child for what was likely just curiosity does not seem overly fair to me.

Tor2Web just allows you to visit .onion sites on your normal browser, without Tor. The site I linked doesn't link to anything illegal itself.
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