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1 Corinthians 14
34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission as the Law says.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by sacgamer25
Let me first say , before there was the Law there was mans rightousness to God . Few were rightous . Sodom and Gamorah will tell you something about that . Then there was the Law given to the Jews . It is my thoughts that the Gentile was still held accountable to the Rightousness to God path because he knew not the Law . But since Jesus came and was sacrificed and His Gospel spread around the world then all who have heard the Gospel of Christ is held accountable to Jesus . You will either be in the Lambs Book of Life or face the judgement of God .
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by sacgamer25
Paul plagiarized Jesus' words and called them his own in order to appear wiser than he really was. The bible doesn't contain all of Jesus' message. Try reading the Gospels of Peace, they contain his full message, that of the Father and the Mother. The Father is consciousness, the Mother is Earth. Those who put the bible together (Rome) suppressed this other half of the story because they were misogynistic.
There are even verses supposedly by Paul contained within them. Paul plagiarized Jesus' words and, in my opinion, the Gospels of Peace prove that.
2 Peter 3:14-18 14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by sacgamer25
I think you have a common misunderstanding of who the god Jesus spoke of is. God has never been separate from his creation because he is the creation. Jesus didn't come to die for our sins, he came to spread the good news, that of everlasting life for ALL. His death was only a consequence of him spreading his message, not the purpose.
Paul changed that by raising Jesus onto a pedestal that could never be reached. That is a flat out lie. The only difference between us and Jesus is that he knew who he was and he knew who we were as well. Paul separates us from Jesus while Jesus united us with himself saying that we are all brothers and sisters and we are all children of god just as he was.
I really do wish you could see that. I can tell you are on the straight path but you still have that one stumbling block in your way, that of Paul and his teachings.edit on 10-1-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by sacgamer25
The resurrection never happened, Jesus really did die on the cross. Dying for three days and coming back to life is impossible, to believe it isn't is illogical. That part of the story was invented by Rome in order to make Jesus look like more than just an ordinary human who was enlightened, that teaching led to people believing Jesus was more than just human when he really wasn't.
Believing he was more than human leads to putting doubt within yourself and believing you could never be like Jesus, which is another thing the church was trying to do.
Why do you believe the resurrection is necessary? If he wasn't resurrected, would that make his message any less true? No, his message would still hold true because truth is truth. His resurrection is not necessary in order to believe he had authority. His life spoke and his words spoke of his authority, not his death. I do wish you could see that.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by sacgamer25
In that case, you are still stuck within the trap of the churches teachings. Jesus didn't need to resurrect for his words to have meaning. Did his words only have meaning until after he died or did they have meaning while still alive, in your opinion?
Originally posted by orangutang
you were going well until i got to the third line;- and god sent his son jesus-----------. this seems to be another christian variation on the bible.
you are dead right re the separation being a product of our mind. all is god and its ridiculous to consider anything else. all is by and of god as genesis writes. its quite ok for the ego/personality/mask to cease to exist because YOU will still remain. identification is the main problem. you're not christian name/surname/personality, these need not concern you and are a nuisance when taken seriously.