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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by sacgamer25
There is one God; he is in everything, including each of us.
Welcome to the one world religion.
Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
John 8:34, 36 Whosoever 34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
I John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Fraudfinder
If my way of thinking is a trap then what would you call the last 2,000 years? Man has become complacent and lazy and unwilling to change his ways all while doing nothing to better the world because of the mindset of "Jesus is coming to fix it for me."
Ever since Jesus died and people started to believe he will come back and save everything Earth has become a world full of greed and violence where everything is about making a profit instead of being about love and compassion. This is not the world Jesus envisioned for us, it's the complete opposite actually. This is the world he warned us about in Revelation.
Jesus is not coming back to fix everything for you, that's what they want you to believe. They want you to stay complacent so they can do whatever they wish to the world. You look around and see all these bad things happening and think to yourself "Why should I put forth the effort to fix it when Jesus is coming to do it for me"?
Sorry to tell you, but the world has been in this "trap" for 2,000 years, which is EXACTLY why we are in this situation now. The church is the one who created and continues to perpetuate this trap.
Only we can change the world, not some guy who lived 2,000 years ago. That's the kind of thinking they don't want you to have.edit on 10-1-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)edit on 10-1-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LittleByLittle
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
You do not call for god by saying things in your mind. You call out to god by action, need and what is in your heart/core. God knows where he is wanted and will respond without there need to be said a single name or belief in a single man made religion. Who do you think understand god the best? The one who sees god thru conditioned information or the one who listens to what god tells you what god is?
Preconditioned indoctrination is more in the way to a personal relationship with god than not from my point of view since it forces god to put on a mask that humans have created. Sorry I do not like people/spirits who show up false fronts to please me. I want the mask less connection where everything is told without trying to make it sound better than it is.
You are still eating the apple of duality commiting the same sin over and over again that Adam and Eve had to leave paradise/the oneness for (even if the story is an alegory it still holds spiritual thruths). You either love duality or oneness/harmony with everything that can be one with you. The first one brings devide and conqurer and the second one being unity with everything that is. One is from your understanding the devil and one is from what you call god. Your religon in the hands of a dualistic mind creates duality.edit on 10-1-2013 by LittleByLittle because: Spellchecking
Originally posted by UnderGetty
I agree with your statement about religion although I think it's vitally important to recognise the distinction between religion and Christianity, especially at ATS where I see this confusion all over.
Religion is man pursuing God. It is not of God.
Christianity is God pursuing man.
Here is a link to a song which puts it nicely. It's called "Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus":
And this is why Christianity is so offensive to the world. "The offence of the cross" can be summed up with an analogy...
An Olympic swimmer, a politician, and a child go down to Long Beach, CA and begin to swim to Hawaii.
If you had to be one of the three, which would you be?
At the end of the day, all three will have drowned regardless of who they are, or what they can do through their own ability. Jesus's purpose on earth was to drive home the point that no matter what you do, or how good you are, it just isn't enough for spiritual salvation.
Only by receiving the undeserved gift of grace extended to man by God, can we be saved from drowning.
2 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?
5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”[a] 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
11 For God does not show favoritism.
12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
The chapter you cited is about Paul and the church twisting Jesus' message and turning him into the beast. Paul is the dragon that gave the beast its power, and it was of his own making.