Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
I will repost, again, what I posted in other threads dealing with Sandy Hook, because I want in know how I -- one of the chief architects of what
ATS is today -- thinks of our membership in respect to the subject.
This site, and its discussion board, was refashioned between 2003 and 2005 to hold conspiracy speculation to a higher standard and ideal than the
typical mayhem and lunacy that was then popular throughout Internet communities dealing with similar subject matter. Our motto of "Deny Ignorance"
was a call to action to be skeptical critical thinkers with regard to official stories and the ever worsening mass media. We took a great deal of
flak, absorbed consistent criticism, and often saw ourselves smeared simply for holding to our ideals that these subjects deserve better of us. ATS
management and staff held strong, never wavered, and grew to one of the most popular discussion boards of any topic.
The wildly foolish self-absorbed conjecture regarding the massacre in Newtown, CT has, in my opinion, thrown the quality of conversation on ATS all
the way back to how horrible it was before we started our 6 years of hard work. Posting personal information of private citizens, then casting nasty
aspersions on them, is the lowest of lows I've ever seen on this site for which I was once proud.
Those who have the urge to speculate on the minute oddities of the "story line" as is currently known should take fair warning that if the ethical
quality of the discussion does not immediately improve, the staff will have no choice but to place a temporary hold on all discussions related to the
The staff and I will not let you ruin our years of hard work and suffer your ridiculousness.
When I first saw the title of the U2U message in my inbox my first thought was "what the heck is going on, I have been playing nice".
Then I opened the message and read it...
...and I have to agree 100% with SO. I have started two threads about Sandy Hook but have not posted to any of the other threads because of just such
garbage being spewed as described by SO. In fact, one of my threads was pretty much in line with SO's stand on the subject and can be seen
My other Sandy Hook thread was a tribute by Dr. Phil to the Sandy Hook victims and it can be seen
I would like to add, when any tragedy happens lately there are a few whackos and hate mongers who immediately try to turn it into some heinous
government false flag operation or coverup. Those are the more civil of the bunch. Worse than them are the real nutcases who try to convince us that
the victims brought it on themselves or some similarly ridiculous claim that demeans the victims, their families or the law enforcement agencies who
are trying to sort out what happened and prevent a repeat of it.
Am I saying our government is incapable of such things, absolutely not. But tragedy brings the cockroaches out of the woodwork without any proof of
anything they claim and their comments make the supermarket rags like the National Enquirer look like Sunday church bulletins.
For ATS site administration to NOT try to keep garbage like that to a minimum reflects badly not only on the site, but on the rest of us who
Here is a suggestion for you SO. You already have your cute little tags for deleted material that you replace the content of a post with when it
violates manners and decorum or terms of service rules. But that leaves the poster's name up and any quotes that happened before the deletion are
still out there with all or part of the deleted material. I think you should institute another level of deletion where the offending post, when it is
as heinous as some of the Sandy Hook stuff, is completely removed from the thread along with any other posts with quoted material having that material
mod edited out. And the person who posted the offensive material that deserved that level of deletion should receive at least double the point penalty
along with a banning for a second offense of that nature.
I am not saying we cannot have conspiracy theories about certain touchy subjects, but rather that they be kept civil and backed up by PROVEN facts and
not some wild conjecture that appears somewhere else on the internet. And not in any other way violate ATS standards for manners and decorum or terms