Syria shuts off internet access across the country

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Radiobuzz
reply to post by beezzer

 

Not 'the internet' but rather internet access and online freedom of expression.

Freedom of expression is not dependent on the world-wide-web!

By Odin's great beard!!!

Does this mean we had no freedom before the net?

No, we had freedom, but when something happened across the globe, took awhile before "the public" knew anything. With the internet, we can communicate and organize efficiently - and it is a LOT HARDER for governments to hide their true agenda (how much stuff do you read online that never sees the light of day on mass media)

Why do you think there are all these attempts to regulate the web? Child porn, film and music profits being lost from pirates? I don't think the powers that be could care less about any of that....chicken feed. It is all about power, it is all about reigning in the last source of unfiltered information.

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by new_here

Prediction: Anonymous ain't gonna like this. Just look at what they did to Israel's leaders communication/governmental networks.

And what exactly can they do to websites or the internet that simply aren't there?

Don't you people read the thread before you make ignorant comments? Deny your ignorance by informing yourself by reading the thread before you comment.

Someone has posted already with information stating that about 20% of Syria's internet is still active. Likely this 20% is for the most part the governmental networks.



-Alien

Originally posted by Radiobuzz

I also wonder how could this influence their economy?

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Dude is this a serious question? Are you serious?

Okay maybe you are very young so I'll be nice...........It's going to be VERY devastating to their economy.


-Alien

Originally posted by GrantedBail
If someone has disconnected the internet in Syria, I highly doubt it is the Assad government. It means serious trouble is coming.

What makes you doubt it so much?





-Alien

Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
Hmmm my guess is this is a defensive measure by the regime more than anything else...complete guess..maybe they received intel about a major plan from the rebels and cut the net to prevent organization.

edit on 11/29/2012 by PatrickGarrow17 because: (no reason given)

Because that makes more sense than the the regime shutting it down because they got tired of all the citizens uploading their atrocities onto the net and letting the rest of the world see it in hopes that the rest of the world would do something about it.

Did you know that the U.S. about a year ago dumped thousands of cameras over to the people in Syria so that they could do this very thing. And now that the people of Syria have been using that weapon the government of Syria wants to silence their only weapon.

Watch the video above.

-Alien

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Radiobuzz
reply to post by beezzer

 

Not 'the internet' but rather internet access and online freedom of expression.

Freedom of expression is not dependent on the world-wide-web!

By Odin's great beard!!!

Does this mean we had no freedom before the net?

We also have freedom before pen and paper, or written language..
But once we have those things (pen/language), removing it from access is considerably more damaging than when it was around before.

The internet is paper in its relevance towards furthering individuals and humanity as a whole and should be seen as such.

People need to start thinking about the old dial up modem technology and multiple lines etc.

Once upon a time some of us old schoolers used text files on BBS systems to spread words or whatever we wanted to spread. Yes, even back 20 years ago there were memes, conspiracy files & forbidden information (a certain cook book for instance) spreading wildly.

I know people in the real world who are doing exactly this, getting ready for Plan B: Older systems & hardware.
One cannot stress enough how important these things could end up being one day.

They can't keep the phone lines down forever and analog data transmission has its own merits.

I know this isn't foolproof and one would have to consider IDE to SD/CF adaptors etc in order to refurbish the storage side of old machines etc. But I think people should really consider emergency comms, data etc.

Everryone who believes the rebels are fighting for the good of all..

You need to stop selectively reading the news... Even the western MSM has run high-profile stories about some of the things done by the rebels (eg killing innocents, destroying peoples way to live, blowing up religious places, etc)

In fact I was led to believe the MSM was trying to establish the point that 'assad cannot contain the rebels' as their entry into Syria, rather than saying 'the glorious rebels are being opposed'.

If Assad loses the Muslim Brotherhood will come in and set up shop and Israel will have them on every border, i dunno if the MB has Jordan yet though.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
If Assad loses the Muslim Brotherhood will come in and set up shop and Israel will have them on every border, i dunno if the MB has Jordan yet though.

Not going to happen, Because Syria is not going to be another Libya, even though that war nutjob John McCain wants to repeat it very badly.

Just so he could come into Syria and say Syrian rebels are his friends again.

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by CrikeyMagnet
There are a lot of differing viewpoints here, but a disturbing trend seems to be to believe that the rebels are virtuous and the government is cruel and unjustly crack-downy. How much of that opinion can be traced back to the SOHR?

How's this: I think the shutdown of internet access within Syria was perpetrated by outside forces trying to overthrow the government of Syria by forcing an escalation.

you can watch it happen here,
looks internal

xploder

So... What does that show, exactly?

Anonymous is claiming they know that the Syrian government is behind the shut down and is planning on retaliation. Not sure how much the government will care if Anon takes down their external sites though.

Anonoymous declares was on Syrian Government

Anonymous will hack them for that !

oh wait
that will be hard if there is no more internet in the entire country
government probably included to

Originally posted by Ben81
Anonymous will hack them for that !

oh wait

that will be hard if there is no more internet in the entire country

Very true, Ben, very true! But remember the old adage; Where there is a will, there is a way. I wouldn't be surprised if they at least tried a few different things, regardless of the outcome.

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there is one already it is called Anonymous and we are legion!

Originally posted by neo96
One of the first actions of warfare on those you are about to conqueror destroy communications.

So that they will not be able to communicate with each other or the outside world meaning everything that has gone on in Syria thus far is just a warm up exercise.

The "shock and awe" is about to begin.

One would think after months and losing an airport the government would shock and awe already.

What a mess the country has turned out to be. If it takes outside help to resolve the conflict, so it should be.

For the life of me I can't figure out how the internet can be shut off without shutting down every internet provider? If I have internet access via a handheld device in the U.S. and I fly to Syria, wouldn't it still work?

reply to post by Radiobuzz


As bad and corrupt as Assad is, it's a damn #ty proxy war on both sides, while the innocent people in the middle get slaughtered by a variety of competing special interests. There's more to it than you get from watching CNN and Fox News.

Originally posted by Radiobuzz


Syria has officially disconnected from the internet. This is pretty serious, who knows what could happen now that the Syrian people is unable to reach the outside world. I hope nothing huge happens. Keep in mind this is happening amidst a civil war. I also wonder how could this influence their economy?

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Internet may be down....but some people will find ways of using other means of sending information out..ie. Blackberry