Secretary of Defense John Kerry??? Said to be Obama's 'favorite choice'

The man Lies and believes his own stories.
Here is one such lie.

In a speech that John Kerry gave on January 20, 2003, before a crowd of African-Americans commemorating the death of Martin Luther King, Kerry shared his feelings with them when he received word of this great man's death. John Kerry said to the crowd, "I remember well April, 1968 — I was serving in Vietnam — a place of violence — when the news reports brought home to me and my crewmates the violence back home — and the tragic news that one of the bullets flying that terrible spring took the life of that unabashedly maladjusted citizen." John Kerry probably brought tears to the eyes of those in the crowd as he wove his heartfelt remembrance, all the while giving the impression that he was on his boat sweating in the steamy jungle heat of Viet Nam in April, 1968 when he received the tragic news. The only problem with this statement is that Kerry didn't set foot in Viet Nam until November 1968. While Kerry was on the U.S.S. Gridley when Martin Luther King Jr. was killed, the Gridley was a ship that only occasionally ventured into the waters near Viet Nam. Kerry was not in Viet Nam in April 1968.

He wasn't even in Vietnam then at the time of Martin Luther King Jr. Death, he was Pandering for Votes!.
OH, I almost forgot, how about his Being in Cambodia story.

Of course, there is the well publicized and apparently not-so-seared-memory of being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. Kerry has back-tracked from this statement and put forth the excuse that it must have been in January, 1969. However, Steve Gardner, a member of his crew through February of 1969, states emphatically they were never in Cambodia. Kerry, never being a man to pass up a chance to embellish something that is a lie to start with, goes on to relate how it felt to be shot at by the Khmer Rouge. Once again, Kerry's penchant for the dramatic has gotten him into trouble. The Khmer Rouge in 1968 was nothing more than a nameless, small, rag-tag bunch of thugs. The name didn't surface until 1970. Kerry was no longer in Viet Nam.

Don't forget Kerry being Shot In The Arm,,,,, LIE!!!

However, questions remain about this incident. If Kerry fled down river, how does Kerry or any member of his crew know what happened around the damaged PCF 3? In a press release on John Kerry's website it is stated that Rassman was not on Kerry's boat as he and Rassman have both stated publicly. From Kerry's website: "On March 13, 1969, Rassman, a Green Beret, was traveling down the Bay Hap river in a boat behind Kerry's when both were ambushed by exploding land mines and enemy fire coming from the shore. Kerry was hit in the arm, while a mine blew Rassman's boat out of the water." How can we believe anything John Kerry and his men say when their own statements are conflicting? Kerry was not "hit in the arm." Kerry did get thrown against the wall where he received a "contusion" — a bruise — according to the official medical report. But a contusion is not enough to earn a Purple Heart. Kerry needed something more.

www.renewamerica.com...

If anyone is interested in viewing a copy of Kerry's DD214 you can here: rofasix.blogspot.com...

How about that "V" for Valor attached to his Silver Star,,,,,, Certainly Kerry had to of known this is not a Valid Award by our Military, wouldn't you think? I know what every award on my DD214 stands for and why I received them.

Bronze "V" (Combat Distinguishing Device).

Prior to . . . 1974, the "V" was authorized for wear on the Legion of Merit, Bronze Star Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy Commendation Medal and Navy Achievement Medal. Between . . .1974 and . . . 1991, the "V" was authorized for wear on the Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star Medal, Air Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal and Navy Commendation Medal. [In] . . . 1991, the "V" was authorized for wear on the Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star Medal, Air Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal and Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal. In all cases, the Combat Distinguishing Device may only be worn if specifically authorized in the citation. See also www.wordiq.com...

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Does Obama Really Want To Embarrass this Country Further With Appointing Kerry?
YES. I think he does.

reply to post by guohua


No.

Just how truthful is Kerry? How about his Christmas 5 miles into Cambodia and being shot at by Drunk South Vietnamese Allies, Khmer Rouge and Cambodia's Celebrating CHRISTMAS! Pleaseeeeee

I remember spending Christmas Day of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese Allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.

Kerry, who served in Vietnam on a gunboat in the Mekong Delta from 1968 to 1969, said he was involved in a "black mission" near Cambodia. "On Christmas Eve of 1968, I was on a gunboat in a firefight that wasn't supposed to be taking place," Kerry recalled. "I thought, if I'm killed here, what will my family be told?"

Here's the news article Kerry Wrote:
instapundit.com...

Now from the Lips of the man en-charge of assigning Kerry his patrol areas.

Admiral Roy Hoffman may have been head of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, but he was also in command of all the Swift Boat operations in Vietnam, directly under the commander of all sea operations in Vietnam, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt.

Any tasking for insertions of special operations troops across borders by sea, whether Seals, CIA, Army Special Forces or Vietnamese troops like CIDG had to come through his command. Hoffman stated he was never asked to handle missions for the CIA. "They had their own teams for that. And none of my Coastal Commands ever inserted any troops of this kind into Cambodia. We had some operations we ran north that I am not at liberty to discuss."

www.realclearpolitics.com...

reply to post by Kali74

The person interviewed was accurate. John Kerry wasn't in the correct uniform and had himself video'd while tramping around Vietnam. It's just the truth of the matter. I understand that the far left luv's this guy for some reason ... but the truth is that he LIED a whole heck of a lot to get where he is.

He's been exposed for what he is.
Too bad some are too partisan to accept the truth of the matter.

3 scratches, 4 months, and out.
That's what his Vietnam service was.
Grains of rice pellets in his butt because he lit off a grenade too close to his boat.

Originally posted by guohua
Just how truthful is Kerry? How about his Christmas 5 miles into Cambodia and being shot at by Drunk South Vietnamese Allies, Khmer Rouge and Cambodia's Celebrating CHRISTMAS! Pleaseeeeee

Christmas in Cambodia. He claims it was SEARED into his mind. And yet it didn't happen.
ATS Thread from 2004 - Christmas In Cambodia

reply to post by FlyersFan


Kerry isn't far Left, nor am I being partisan about anything especially since my ideology which is far Left (Libertarian Socialist) is not represented in US Government or Politics. There's things he has done that I certainly DO NOT approve of. He is a person and saw the horrors of war and spoke against them, regardless of how long he saw combat... he served in a life threatening situation. I think the Right's disdain of him comes from the fact that he spoke out against the military, the most cardinal in their list of sins and people such as Jerome Corsi and Karl Rove exploited it to the fullest.

Last I checked, the military didn't give medals upon request. If you have issues with Purple Hearts for boo-boo's perhaps you should write the Pentagon and enclose a list of boo-boo related medals to be stripped off their recipients.

Originally posted by guohuaDoes Obama Really Want To Embarrass this Country Further With Appointing Kerry?
YES. I think he does.

Pretty clear to me that Obama has no sense of shame and could care very little about the people or the institution that is the United States.

Look at the way he debases himself in front of foreign leaders but struts around like a peacock in the rose garden.

Clearly the man is a narcissist who will do or say anything to get and retain power.

I heard that Porky Pig turned Obama down flat. Something to do with Porky refusing to take a step down.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Wikipedia has sources, all you have to do is follow the citations.

And all you spewed was WND loony tune propaganda.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Secretary of Defense John "Winter Soldier" Kerry?? Are you freak'n kidding me??

John 'Winter Soldier' Kerry - who paid people to fake being war veterans and to tell false stories to a congressional investigation ("Winter Soldier") of what was happening in Vietnam.

John "Winter Soldier' Kerry - who went to France and ILLEGALLY met with the enemy during war time in that foreign country and 'negotiated' with them - without any kind of approval from our government.

John "Winter Soldier' Kerry - Who threw away his war medals .. who made a big show of tossing them over the fence at the White House .. but then claimed them back again when he ran for POTUS. He played with his medals for the press, depending on how the winds of politics were going.

John "Winter Soldier" Kerry - Who faked film footage of himself tramping around a battlefield in Vietnam so he could use it for his political purposes back in CONUS .. and he got the fake uniform wrong.

John "Winter Soldier" Kerry - three scratches and three Purple Hearts and out of Vietnam in four months.

John "Winter Soldier" Kerry - who told the dramatic story about 'Christmas in Cambodia' and how it was seared into his mind .. and yet it never really happened.

John "Winter Soldier" Kerry as Defense Secretary?
Man ... this is worse than having Obama as POTUS. :shk:

NY Daily News

John Kerry appears to be the favorite to become the next secretary of defense. President Obama has his eye on the senior senator from Massachusetts for the job that will be vacated by Leon Panetta once a replacement is found, The Washington Post reported Monday.

Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, has long desired to be secretary of state, but it appears Obama has other plans for him. The speculation comes as Obama begins restructuring his Cabinet and other key positions in the administration for his second term.

edit on 11/13/2012 by FlyersFan because: added christmas in cambodia

You're mad because John Kerry opposed the GOVERNMENT'S policies?

Or Mad because the Military gives out the Purple Heart like candy?

Where is OP's Purple Heart/s?

reply to post by Thepump

You're mad because John Kerry opposed the GOVERNMENT'S policies?

He did so for political expediency to gain favor with veterans then he threw them in the trash to gain favor with the leaders of the anti-war left. Look where he is now…real anti-government, huh?? He's a career crook!

Or Mad because the Military gives out the Purple Heart like candy?

The military doesn’t give purple hearts out like candy. He was an officer and likely nominated himself for everything, which typically doesn’t happen. He’s a poser!!

Where is OP's Purple Heart/s?

Would it matter…really? Must a person have been awarded a purple heart to criticize someone who obtained 3 under suspicious circumstances in a 4 month period?

Originally posted by DOLCOTT
reply to post by Trustfund

 

I am more than disgraced by even the thought of this douche bag being considered. I have no respect for this lying idiot. As a veteran with real medals from real wounds he is a disgrace to every service member. It would had been better if he hid out in the National Guard or Reserves than fake his war stories.

Not specifically to you, but to all veterans with real medals from real wounds... not respecting the purpose of the purple heart does not look good on you. It is not awarded for "real wounds", but for injuries from participation in combat. Whether or not you think it's a real wound, it was a wound sustained in combat. Who else should have purple hearts taken away for not being wounded enough? Your next job is to classify everyone who has gotten such a medal, and collect the unwarranted ones. Let us know how it goes.

Originally posted by Thepump
You're mad because John Kerry opposed the GOVERNMENT'S policies?

I'm exposing John Kerry's continued lies and his disgraceful actions while he engaged in self promotion.

Or Mad because the Military gives out the Purple Heart like candy?

They certainly did in Kerrys case!

Where is OP's Purple Heart/s?

I served 5 years in the US Army .. not during war time. There was no combat for me to gain purple hearts and back in the 1980s women weren't allowed in any front line positions. In the almost five years I was in i earned ... 1 good conduct medal, 1 overseas service ribbon, 2 army achievment medals, 1 army commendation medal. And of course, the army service ribbon.

None of them were for scratches or rice grains embedded in my butt.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Thepump
You're mad because John Kerry opposed the GOVERNMENT'S policies?

I'm exposing John Kerry's continued lies and his disgraceful actions while he engaged in self promotion.

Or Mad because the Military gives out the Purple Heart like candy?

They certainly did in Kerrys case!

Where is OP's Purple Heart/s?

I served 5 years in the US Army .. not during war time. There was no combat for me to gain purple hearts and back in the 1980s women weren't allowed in any front line positions. In the almost five years I was in i earned ... 1 good conduct medal, 1 overseas service ribbon, 2 army achievment medals, 1 army commendation medal. And of course, the army service ribbon.

None of them were for scratches or rice grains embedded in my butt.

edit on 11/13/2012 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)

HUA, FF. Didn't know that.

Thanks for your service.

reply to post by CrikeyMagnet

Not specifically to you, but to all veterans with real medals from real wounds... not respecting the purpose of the purple heart does not look good on you.

Nominating yourself for Purple Hearts for self-inflicted wounds is demonstrating a complete lack of respect for those who truly earned them.

It is not awarded for "real wounds", but for injuries from participation in combat.

Cutting your hand is not a combat injury. Shrapnel or gunshots wounds from direct combat are considered combat injuries. If I stuff my hand into a meatgrinder while in combat that doesn't warrant a Purple Heart IMO. These awards MEAN SOMETHING and its disgraceful when someone abuses the process - stolen valor if you will.

Whether or not you think it's a real wound, it was a wound sustained in combat.

Self inflicted……was he fighting himself??

Who else should have purple hearts taken away for not being wounded enough? Your next job is to classify everyone who has gotten such a medal, and collect the unwarranted ones. Let us know how it goes.

I don’t believe he should be stripped of his medals. I do believe he has gotten the type of treatment from veterans that he deserves. Can you think of another public figure with military awards that has been criticized and shunned by his peers this way? Why do you think that is??

reply to post by beezzer

There weren't as many women in the army back then. I wanted to go airborne but they wouldn't let me. I dont' know if women are allowed to go airborne now or not. So I jumped outside the Army ... with the civilians. I was stationed at Fort Hood Texas and Camp Zama Japan. I was pretty good with the grenades but lousy with the M16.

Originally posted by seabag
I don’t believe he should be stripped of his medals.

He self stripped them decades ago. The dude tossed them over the White House fence. You don't do that and then, decades later, try to be all-military and claim them again, and salute the freak'n audience and say 'John Kerry reporting for duty". That was beyond sickening. He should be ashamed of himself. But his ego won't let him. And there is no way he should be Secretary of Defense ... but some partisan yutz is going to hand him that title. Like anyone can trust him?

reply to post by seabag

Nominating yourself for Purple Hearts for self-inflicted wounds is demonstrating a complete lack of respect for those who truly earned them.

Ummm don't you have to be nominated by a superior officer?

Originally posted by Kali74
Ummm don't you have to be nominated by a superior officer?

Military Corruption - Their John Kerry Files

Grant Hibbard of Gulf Breeze, Fla., a retired Navy officer, told MilitaryCorruption.com he was the commanding officer to whom Kerry reported his “battle wound” on Dec. 3, 1968.

“I had confirmed that there was no hostile fire that night and that Kerry had simply wounded himself with an M-79 grenade round he fired too close. He wanted a Purple Heart, and I refused.”

The former Navy commander said Louis Letson, the base physician, saw Kerry and used tweezers to remove a tiny piece of shrapnel – about 1 centimeter in length and 2 millimeters in diameter – from the lieutenant j.g.’s (junior grade) forearm.

“Letson confirmed that the scratch had been self-inflicted when Kerry clumsily used the M-79.”
It’s been more than 35 years since the incident, but Hibbard still recalls Kerry’s actions with disgust.

“It is unacceptable to nominate yourself for a combat award. It compromises the basic military principle that we survive together.. To promote yourself is to denigrate your team . . . Kerry orchestrated his way out of Vietnam [in four months – a third of the required tour of duty] and then testified, under oath, before Congress that we, his comrades, had committed horrible war crimes..