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Originally posted by Jaellma
reply to post by hawkiye
You are correct but voting by the masses is done in every single country, as far as I know.
So is it a "reality show"? Sure. Are the participants "actors". Sure. Should we vote? Absolutely. Why?
Think of the consequences of not voting. The whole freaking world is watching the United States to see how our elections turn out. While you and others here may not vote because you think it's a dog and pony show, you are in the minority...in every single category and for every single participating country.
We lose credibility as a nation and as a leader on the world stage if we compromise what we stand for as a nation and a set of people. There are no options. The script has been set by TPTB and even if you don't follow it, it doesn't really matter. The masses will always do what they feel is right.
The same goes for societal organized activities such as church and school attendance. It's conditioning, sure, but it keeps things in order and prevents chaos. Until you and anyone else can come up with a viable option that the masses will follow, people will always gravitate to something they can identify with and pass down to generations.
It is what it is.
Originally posted by Dawnbreaker
I'm not directing this at the OP or anybody at all, but with so many people whining about everything going on in the US, why stay? You have a choice & the freedom to move elsewhere. Don't know if it's loyalty, age, financials, comfort, or just ignorant bliss. But I feel people would rather just whine about everything & be miserable & NOT do anything than either try to create change (by other means than voting, because I agree with the OP that the whole process is just a front) or just move to a more favorable (to your liking) system in another country. I just don't understand it...edit on 7-11-2012 by Dawnbreaker because: (no reason given)
If you you didn't vote.... you're just LAZY.
I mean what in the hell!? I feel like this site has turned into a CNN message board.
Tell me that the vote for president yesterday has or is going to change any direction this country is headed?
Originally posted by dplum517
reply to post by intrptr
You're right..... simply just voting is not enough.... people need to be involved in their local communities.
Tell me that the vote for president yesterday has or is going to change any direction this country is headed?
I agree that for positions such as POTUS are highly influenced by power, money, and corruption, and it's difficult to see change in that area.
BUT...that doesn't mean you don't vote.
There is a lot more to vote for than just POTUS ..... Colorado and Washington just voted to make Pot legal for recreational use.
That would not have happened if people did not get off their asses and vote.
I'm not going to budge on this.... voting DOES matter and it DOES help.
If you didn't vote...you're ignorant and/or lazy.
Originally posted by EllaMarina
I wonder how far up the ladder the deception goes.
Do you think that even the president and candidates themselves think it's real?
Plato lets Socrates describe a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave all of their lives, facing a blank wall. The people watch shadows projected on the wall by things passing in front of a fire behind them, and begin to ascribe forms to these shadows. According to Plato's Socrates, the shadows are as close as the prisoners get to viewing reality. He then explains how the philosopher is like a prisoner who is freed from the cave and comes to understand that the shadows on the wall do not make up reality at all, as he can perceive the true form of reality rather than the mere shadows seen by the prisoners.